Make it illegal to include touch screens, tracking, no buttons and no handles. Then I’ll consider getting a loan for one 🤷♂️
They say this whilst trying their best to make EVs the printers of the car industry. Update? The car stops and bricks itself for the duration of it. Want basic features? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the car you already payed for. Need it repaired? Have to bring it to a dealership with criminal prices because every part is serialized and they have you by the balls. Need a new battery after it kicks the bucket in 4-5 years? Expect to pay $10-20k for a new one. Oh and of course the center terminal/tablet is now crucial for the cars function, so anytime that malfunction it bricks itself again. Oh and it will always track and spy on you with GPS and onboard cameras and microphones.
People aren’t going to realize EV’s are better until the can actually afford one.
Also, maybe one day America will get their heads out of their ass and realize that public transportation is better EV’s.
That’s what I think. EVs aren’t functionally equivalent to ICE cars yet - most of them can’t go as far between fillups, and they take longer to fill up. Those are steadily improving. But the cost benefits are there. Back in 2013 when I bought my Leaf I went from spending $1800/year on gas to $300/year on electricity, and in 12 years my only maintenance costs were windshield wiper blades and a set of tires - which I would have needed with a gas car. But no oil changes, tuneups, no filters, belts or hoses, no spark plugs. No radiator problems, starter problems, pump replacements. I mean it’s almost like not having a car at all, except you have a car.
The only problem I’ve had with the EVs we’ve been leasing for 5 years now, is unsolicited criticism from EV haters. They seem to ignore the fact that I’ve been driving various diesel and petrol vehicles for decades. If my own lived experience of EVs was less rewarding than my previous ICE ownership I’d switch back. It’s not like a football team that I’m wedded to. They’re just generally better cars in terms of driving, torque, maintenance, cost to run and basically every metric that matters to me as a driver. Quite why that annoys people who in many cases have never even been behind the wheel of one is beyond me.
Only inbreds hate EVs.
Normal people simply hate tesla.
What I’d like is a EV that has no additional shite attached other than what I want.
Just give me a chassis with a standardised battery pack, that has AC. Then let ME choose what after-market 3rd party options to put in such as:
Heated seats, Radio/CD/BT/carplay or android auto using standard car DIN box sizes, reversing sensors, cruise control, cab lighting, etc.
Anything but public transit, eh?
Thats absolutley true, but I live in an apartment complex that wont even fix the elevators, there’s no way in hell I’d ever be able to charge at home and for that reason… I can never have an EV.
EV drivers have realized this over 10 years ago. It’s the ICE and fossil industries that are trying to delay everyone else from realizing the same. They want as much of your money as they can get before you realize EVs are better.
Donald Trump.
World’s most contemptible belligerent asshole, and also, unintentionally, world’s most effective EV salesman.
Does anyone think… gas prices… are going to meaningfully go … down, in the future?
If so, well I know a guy who can offer you a timeshare on a bridge he sublets from a travelling used car salesman.
… the best bridge.
And they won’t need to cheat their emissions tests with evs
Also article quotes an executive but no labor leaders
I like electric cars, they’re not for me I personally hate modern cars looks, computerisation, screens, and lack of any discernible personality, but the more people who own EVs, the longer I will be able to keep running my ICE car.
I do realise I’m a luddite, but I see vehicles as more than just a tool for travelling from one point to another- which EVs are great for- and more of a symphony of engineering to create something that has a distinct personality, every engine drives slightly differently and I think that is much more engaging than what is possible with EVs. (I do think the fake gear changes in cars like the Ioniq 5n are a bit silly as they’re not necessary)
I don’t know actual numbers but my physics teacher said that he’d worked out that his car which had almost 400,000 miles on it had just about created the same amount of CO2 emissions in its use as it had in its creation but regardless of whether he was correctI think there’s something to be said for not constantly replacing cars and keeping existing ones running as long as possible, there’s a lot of materials that go into producing a car that are at best environmentally expensive to recycle.We have an ID.3 and a 2012 Audi A5 Cabrio. I love my Cabrio. I would drive it all day if I could. It’s just so much fun.
The ID.3 is a tool. An appliance. There’s… No joy. Because of the empty-ness, because of the flat screens, because I’m being monitored by Volkswagen and I cannot turn that off.
If they could marry the fun and privacy of the Cabrio with the sheer “better-ness” of the ID.3… then I would be set :-)
Ehh, I feel like a lot of people in here are arguing just for the sake of it, and because the guy who said this is from a car company.
Yes, of course electric cars are better than cars burning fossil fuels. EVs being too expensive, too few buttons and too many touch screens has nothing to do with that. The same goes for the also obvious fact, that we should focus more on public transport because it is much more efficient in moving people around than cars.
