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AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

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Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

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AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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    Even with video/audio evidence of him pledging allegiance to the KGB/RU cause, maga-heads would still call it left wing falsehoods. Nothing is believed anymore… Just blind faith in their “leader.”

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      To be fair, this seems like something the KGB would release to destabilize the US. I somewhat believe it because of how closely Trump aligns himself with Putin and spreads Russian messaging. I still don’t know if I believe this particular person in this particular instance (in fact, I know I don’t trust them), but my trust doesn’t change if Trump actually is a Russian asset. He acts like one regardless.

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      so basically, severing people from reality on social media, kinda destroyed whatever hold the Russians might have had over Trump, because nobody would believe it anymore.

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    As if it wasn’t fucking obvious to everyone and anyone that has been paying attention for the last ten years. This really isn’t “news” as much as it is another conformation from US official saying what we all already know. Still its nice to see it and i want more people to stand up ant tell us all they know!

    • ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      This is not a US official:

      Alnur Mussayev, 71, a former Kazakh intelligence chief, made the explosive claim in a Facebook post on Thursday. He claimed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, which was responsible for counter-intelligence support within the economy. One of its key objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

      The allegation revives claims which Trump has denounced as “the Russia hoax,” and which dogged his first term in the White House.

      Mussayev wrote that in 1987 “our directorate recruited Donald Trump, a 40-year-old American businessman, under the pseudonym Krasnov.”

      • Maiq@lemy.lol
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        Fair enough.

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    I mean he’s not the first to claim this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

    It’s unlikely tho that the Kreml ever foresaw him becoming president. No-one did really.

  • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    A question format I like to use on my dad, who voted for Trump as a “strong republican” but isn’t as far gone as most red hats:

    Let’s say he is not a Russian asset. How would his actions if he were be any different?

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    404?! Ruh roh.

    https://archive.is/ohI5R

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    This link gives a 404 now. Archive anywhere? Was it legit?

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      https://web.archive.org/web/20250221181422/https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-intelligence-officer-alnur-mussayev-claims-kgb-recruited-donald-trump-under-codename-krasnov/

      https://archive.today/ohI5R

    • ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Well isn’t that odd - I wonder how come it got taken down?

      The Mirror (not a very great source) still has a report on it: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-recruited-kgb-codename-34726995

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    I always assumed they had some leverage on him, but ‘pee tapes’ didn’t seem to cut it. Maybe rather than something more depraved, it was just fear of being hanged for treason the whole time?

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      If he was scared of being hanged for treason you would have thought he might have stopped committing treason for five minutes.

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        The man bankrupted multiple casinos.

        I think the only play he knows is to double down.

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      He has almost certainly done a lot of money laundering for dubious Russian organizations, and he has also funded his businesses with Russian money. His indebtedness to powerful Russians will have been part of their leverage. And it would be surprising if there weren’t at least a little blackmail thrown in too.

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    So fucking stop him? Do your job?

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    Okay now do Elon

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    I’m getting a 404

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      https://archive.is/ohI5R

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    What does it matter? He’s doing their bidding regardless.

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    I mean yeah, I think everyone knows that by now.

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    This is wild

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