Send me bad puns. Good puns welcome too.
The US isn’t an ICC signatory, but it has its own military law that defines illegal orders, so some subset of war crimes is also illegal under US law. I’m guessing destroying the water infrastructure of nearly 100 million people would be included, but I’ll leave it to someone else to fact check that.
TL;DR: It’s illegal to commit some war crimes in America, but I don’t know about this particular war crime.
and directly perpetrated by people who were the descendants of those victims and keepers of those memories
Not quite. Israel is predominantly populated by Jews of Middle Eastern or Eastern European descent who had nothing to do with the Holocaust. There are plenty of Holocaust survivors and their descendants, but Israel was built and remains predominantly shaped by people who didn’t experience the Holocaust. In fact, quite ironically, Israel basically stole and keeps stealing a lot of Holocaust survivors’ reparation money.
canceled a workshop about the “fragility of democracy.”
Tbf, this is a good way to educate people about the fragility of democracy.
The most competent leadership was forced out in favor of sycophants.
One of the few good things Trump and co did.
AOC tends to submit to party politics, but it’s important to understand that you don’t need to do that to run under a party’s name. Parties in America don’t get to control their membership and there’s on paper at least no mechanism to enforce intraparty compliance. It’s more accurate to say that she runs as a Democrat than that she runs for Democrats.
the limits where on types and size of weapons.
There were no limits other than a pause on one shipment of 2000 pound bombs. That is almost literally nothing.
before trump we were trying
Your thoughts and prayers don’t matter to the Palestinians Israel was starving to death.
Israel was always calling the shots with regards to Palestine; Trump is just more blatant about it. He’s also worse on Iran, but that’s a completely different conversation.
it was not good enough so lets just choose worse
That doesn’t have fucking anything with what we’re talking about. You made a claim about Democrats; you don’t get to deflect by talking about Republicans.
This is historical revisionism.
we had limits on weapons
Literally one paused shipment. Big fucking deal.
getting aid to isreal was a fight even though it got through
The overwhelming majority regularly voting yes is not my idea of a fight.
there was aid to plestine.
There was aid during Trump’s term too. In both cases it was Israel dictating how much aid got through.
we friggen made a dock to get around israel blockading areas
A useless dock that was criticized for being useless the moment it was announcement and eventually was used by the IDF.
all the stuff we were doing until 2025.
Literally what? This is all stuff Democrats (including AOC herself) were flamed for not doing until 2025.
It can’t apply to Democratic politicians, because the phrase refers to someone who blindly supports the Dem establishment/Democratic politicians in general much like MAGA Republicans blindly support Trump (that’s what the MAGA part is about). If a Democratic politician blindly supported the establishment, they’d just be a member of the establishment.
Okay that’s just a cope. MTG was pro-Israel until 2025 while also being a raging antisemite; tying her current anti-Israel position to her antisemitism rather than political opportunism is, as I said, a cope to distract from AOC’s failure to do the same.
But there’s still time for her to hone it.
Their problem isn’t with her position per se, but with how she chooses her position. Trying to create a middle path where one side is insert evil thing is too common with AOC, is (how I interpreted) the point.
It seems the blueMAGA are really hating this one. God it’s been a while since I used this word.
I have not once ever voted to authorize funding to Israel, and I will never
Uh… It’s nice that she’s finally gotten the memo, but is she gaslighting us?
This is a fair analysis, but remember: Europe today is much, much less competent than in the 70s. Folks like Starmer and Merz don’t strike me like the “every crisis is an opportunity” type.
*Just American secular/Judeo-Christian values. I don’t have a detailed list of American bomb-based war crimes, but bombing weddings for example are a common one. It’s not like blue Americans don’t bomb innocent people.
As a non-American, I am happy about this. There’s exactly 0% the US would be on the “good” side of a world war anyway if such a thing existed.
No, because if Newsom runs he’ll lose, badly. Giving a corporate stooge like Newsom the nomination would be tantamount to giving Republicans the presidency (or, at best, getting a one-term semi-lull before fascism comes back stronger than ever in 2032).
Can we just dwell on how fucking weird it is for a governor of a state to “revere” a country on the other side of the world that has no relation to him at all, genocide or not?
Basically I don’t believe in intellectual property in the first place, so I consider the whole debate moot. It becomes obviously absurd when you try to think of how to apply the rulings of actual property. For example if I have an OC and “lend” it to someone, what? Am I not allowed to draw it anymore? Will they sue me? How do I return a stolen OC? Are we really going to consider piracy a major sin (stealing)? Accepting IP as property would also imply that it never ends, and literally nobody does that.
Intellectual property should be seen for what it is: A system thought up by the British to make the rich richer that has about as much Islamic legitimacy as, say, segregation.
Edit: Also you’re generally not going to get many replies from Muslims here seeing as the number of Muslims on the Threadverse is in the single digits.
Yeah America’s track record (even before Trump for the libs in the back) does not imply respect for international or even American humanitarian law. Pete Hegseth can kiss my ass if even a single pilot refuses to drop the bombs.