• Jhex@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    It’s worse than that… what they IPO with is basically a tiny percentage of SpaceX composed solely of xAI

    The entire stock market is basically 99.9% blind speculation and 0.1% basic math, which is why it rarely makes sense

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      It’s not even a surprise, this is from SpaceX s-1 document: only 7% of their estimated valuation is from Space related activities

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        Is “Enterprise Applications” like shooting datacenters into space, or copilot business edition?
        I think the “Space-Enabled Solutions” part sounds more like designing satellites than the space-launch business.

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          They bought Cursor for AI. Earlier this year cursor switched to pay per use model, so now every engineer is spending dozens to hundreds of AI Bucks. I don’t think Cursor is profitable on that yet, but I imagine xAI are looking to scale that model, both to turn Grok into something that earns an income, and to scale up to profit despite cost of datacenters/training.

          I’m skeptical there is really a profitable market, but it might be the most grounded of his predictions. The technology exists, the business model is successful at a small scale, so they just need to scale

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            The technology exists, the business model is successful at a small scale, so they just need to scale

            could you provide details on that?

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              You could probably research the company but from my direct experience

              • Cursor is one of the stronger contenders for coding - bringing a variety of models to tools where coders are.
              • Cursor switched to pay per use, significantly increasing costs and didn’t lose customers
              • cursor charged more for higher end models and didn’t lose customers
              • grok is not currently there, or at least not what I can see, so is a huge gap from an xAI perspective
              • it seems good enough business model to business people to be worth a huge purchase

              Once grok is added to Cursor, I will just have it, along with a variety of other models, and can simply choose it based on cost and effectiveness. It may even be chosen for me since I usually leave it in automatic, and my company is a paying customer where each engineer spends a budget

              Also it’s more like a subscription. Software companies love a subscription model with regular income, rather than selling something you pay for once

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            One of several people standing on a balcony overlooking an Occupy Wall Street protest in 2011. This woman specifically was at the time believed to be an employee of National Bank but I don’t know if they were ever identified individually.

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              It disturbs me that my first thought was “facial recognition exists now”.

              This timeline is cursed

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        there are no rules anymore man… they just change them to rig the game in plain light… no ill consequences for the rich

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      The entire stock market is basically 99.9% blind speculation and 0.1% basic math

      The US, England, and Japan are all returning to quantitative easing policy. So we’ve once again got too much money chasing too few investments. What a lot of naive investors see as a market bubble is recognized among the more savvy as a return to our ongoing policy of asset inflation.

      A lot of what SpaceX is selling boils down to an access point to public spending - through sale of military hardware and equipment, network access to Starlink, and R&D funds allocated to the private sector. That’s what is really driving investment. It is, in effect, a play on the future of police and military spending.

      Still wildly overvalued imho. But not “blind” speculation.

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        11 hours ago

        So we’ve once again got too much money chasing too few investments.

        maybe it’s time to redistribute that too much money. lets free them from their burden.