You can believe that if you want. It is true for some (cough-Musk-cough), but not all.
Our customers are often what are considered socially “good”, like medical research. Our company is employee-forward with extraordinary benefits of all kinds. The executives are very down-to-earth.
Our customers are often what are considered socially “good”, like medical research.
I feel like this right here is where discussion is breaking down.
The arguments around data centers are interesting. I think, collectively and socially, we’re hitting a language barrier around it. Like “AI” is a marketing term, language to a standard nontechnical person is fuzzy around AI, LLM, and ML.
On the surface, I’m pro data center. Astronomy, bio-med, weather prediction, the internet itself, better ML models and more compute has been a net benefit to all of society. But the current rush to build out? The holding companies building these won’t even say explicitly what the data centers are being built for, the news insinuates they’re for LLMs, but the local governments are under NDAs, and the general population aren’t allowed to know anything and have to vote with their gut.
The opposition groups to data centers are split apart and can’t coordinate well, because they’re focusing on smaller facets of a larger problem. I think the general population has an intrinsic gut feeling that something is wrong, almost like 50 years of unpaid taxes is coming back to fuck everything over, but they don’t have the technical knowledge to put it into a concise reason why they feel the way they feel, and it just comes out as “they’re gonna drain out the entire Mississippi River.”
Yes. “AI” has become a catch-all for this current generation of GPU- based computing. The public doesn’t know or care about ML vs LLM vs VLM vs GenAI etc.
And yours is the “my asshole neighbor is black, so I hate all black people” defense.
You have bought into the sensationalist outrage press about the worst offenders. Yes, they are bad. But as we don’t pass judgement based on news of a sensational crime in a quiet neighborhood, we need to rise above the media noise to see the entire picture.
I cannot say what OAI does as I have not witnessed it. I do know what happens on my sites. I have seen it myself instead of relying on the press. I don’t deny that others likely have bad practices. I simply know from personal experience that the “good guys” are being painted with a broad brush.
My industry is ruled by trade secrets during this phase. That’s part of the explanation for the complete lack of pushback on the “bad press” we get. Thanks for understanding.
Well, for what it’s worth, I hope your company actually does use AI sustainably. I’m reminded of some of the blockchain startups that were attempting to make genuine use of the technology outside of cryptocurrency. There are legitimate use cases for AI just like there are for blockchain tech.
Not true. My company only builds closed loop.
Who cares? They still use the energy of a large city, all for profiting a handful of billionaire/trillionaire oligarchs.
You can believe that if you want. It is true for some (cough-Musk-cough), but not all.
Our customers are often what are considered socially “good”, like medical research. Our company is employee-forward with extraordinary benefits of all kinds. The executives are very down-to-earth.
How about employee owned? The fuck employee forward mean?
I feel like this right here is where discussion is breaking down.
The arguments around data centers are interesting. I think, collectively and socially, we’re hitting a language barrier around it. Like “AI” is a marketing term, language to a standard nontechnical person is fuzzy around AI, LLM, and ML.
On the surface, I’m pro data center. Astronomy, bio-med, weather prediction, the internet itself, better ML models and more compute has been a net benefit to all of society. But the current rush to build out? The holding companies building these won’t even say explicitly what the data centers are being built for, the news insinuates they’re for LLMs, but the local governments are under NDAs, and the general population aren’t allowed to know anything and have to vote with their gut.
The opposition groups to data centers are split apart and can’t coordinate well, because they’re focusing on smaller facets of a larger problem. I think the general population has an intrinsic gut feeling that something is wrong, almost like 50 years of unpaid taxes is coming back to fuck everything over, but they don’t have the technical knowledge to put it into a concise reason why they feel the way they feel, and it just comes out as “they’re gonna drain out the entire Mississippi River.”
Yes. “AI” has become a catch-all for this current generation of GPU- based computing. The public doesn’t know or care about ML vs LLM vs VLM vs GenAI etc.
We can’t speak due to very harsh NDAs.
The “Bill Cosby didn’t do anything to me” of Big Tech defense
And yours is the “my asshole neighbor is black, so I hate all black people” defense.
You have bought into the sensationalist outrage press about the worst offenders. Yes, they are bad. But as we don’t pass judgement based on news of a sensational crime in a quiet neighborhood, we need to rise above the media noise to see the entire picture.
Trillionaires’ toys are not a systemically oppressed minority. But the data centers are disproportionately harming historically black neighborhoods.
The bulk of the industry agrees that Musk is doing all the wrongest possible things.
He is not the industry. He just gets the press attention.
Are all electric cars bad? No, just his.
Lol no the industry loves this crap. Why do you think he’s a trillionaire?
But sure let’s pretend he’s just an outlier and see what OpenAI is doing… Oh literally the same thing as Musk.
I cannot say what OAI does as I have not witnessed it. I do know what happens on my sites. I have seen it myself instead of relying on the press. I don’t deny that others likely have bad practices. I simply know from personal experience that the “good guys” are being painted with a broad brush.
one bad apple spoils the bunch, isnt that how it goes?
Yeah without telling us the companies’ name this has major ‘trust me bro’ energy.
Edit: I get why you haven’t, I’m not saying you should doxx yourself.
My industry is ruled by trade secrets during this phase. That’s part of the explanation for the complete lack of pushback on the “bad press” we get. Thanks for understanding.
Well, for what it’s worth, I hope your company actually does use AI sustainably. I’m reminded of some of the blockchain startups that were attempting to make genuine use of the technology outside of cryptocurrency. There are legitimate use cases for AI just like there are for blockchain tech.
Thank you for understanding the nuance.
Where does the heat go in your systems?
Same place as any NYC skyscraper - the air on the roof.