• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    3 days ago

    Shooting at dogs is incredibly stupid. I’ve seen video where cop shoots at a dog, the bullet hits concrete floor and pieces of concrete hits a child in the face. I’ve also seen a video where a cop shoots a child behind the dog. The dog will not kill the cop but he is creating life threatening situation to everyone around. Shooting at a dog is not an appropriate defense, It should be a fireable offense.

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      Us police are trained in something called “killilogy”. They are taught to always assume their lives are in danger, and that their number 1 duty is to protect themselves

      If you happen to kill a child, you still did the right thing

      I’m not kidding, that’s what they’re taught

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      yeah gun owners and cops dont seem to remember that every bullet fired goes somewhere after it misses, and urban landscapes are full of innocent people. Guns dont belong in cities and cops arent trained well enough to be allowed to use them. Give them nighsticks. If they dont have a duty to protect citizens then they are just protecting themselves, and nighsticks are plenty for that.

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      I guess? I agree that any shooting should happen responsibly (train people before you give them guns ffs), but what do you mean “the dog will not kill the cop”? People do die from dog attacks, and even if it isn’t that common I don’t see how anyone can be expected to just accept being mauled. How are you supposed to defend yourself?

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        I mean that the dog will not just jump and rip off your head. Dogs need time to kill someone. This cop had backup. There no way the dog would be able to maul on him for so long that he would die. If you can’t get the dog off him then yes, as last resort shot it. Shooting the dog on sight is stupid. Mailmen interact with dogs all the time and don’t have to carry guns to survive.

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        Go look at how small the dog is and then come back and feel like a dumbass for thinking any rational person would be scared of it.

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          Where exactly am I supposed to see that? (I already mentioned having to use Reader Mode for OP’s article; here’s one that probably has the same pictures.) The size of the dog is not clear from the Knicks shirt picture, though I notice he apparently takes up a full couch cushion. In the still from the aftermath video, the blurred out dog is almost as long as the grieving woman - it certainly doesn’t give the impression of a small dog, though without properly seeing the posture and more visual references it’s hard to actually tell. This source says the dog was a “golden retriever/St. Bernard/poodle mix” - that doesn’t sound small to me.

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      Dogs very much can kill people. What are you talking about?

      This dog couldn’t have though, and shooting it definitely seems cruel and excessive.

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        I’m talking about realistic situations. Yes, dogs kill people if they are attacked by a specific breeds or many dogs and there’s no one to assist them. Can a dog realistically kill a cop who’s surrounded by people, including other armed cops? No. Dog will not kill you with one, quick bite, no matter how big it is. You don’t have to shoot it before it can bite you. Firing a gun to save you from a bite makes no sense.