Thousands of Southern Baptists overwhelmingly voted Wednesday to advance a formal ban on women pastors in the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, sending a clear message that men alone should preach to these conservative evangelical congregations.

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    19 hours ago

    It’s very hard to moderate a religion when everyone with a functional brain leaves…

    Which should be obvious, everytime someone leaves a church because it’s too extreme, it gets more extreme.

    It’s like how neoliberals coming to the Dem party made it shittier and got us modern Republicans.

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      You’re definitely right about that. I have to say I like what this Pope is saying, shame they barely listen to him. But that’s Catholics I guess, still.

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        And if he had turned away because the church was more extreme than he was…

        We’d be worse off.

        Instead he became the fricken Pope and moderated on of the world’s largest religions.

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          That is great, I would love to see similar movements in the Evangelical and Baptist faiths here. What about Islam who is moderating that?

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            Protestants do not have a pope-equivilant to keep all of the sects in line

            Islam has sheikhs and such who make decrees, but Islam is also very sectarian so you’re not gonna get universal agreement

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              I see, thank you, I do admit I’m not super knowledgeable about that. That makes sense, what I was trying to get at before was that it didn’t seem like Islam had such a thing. I know that holy wars have been going on for centuries and the current ones aren’t anything new just different circumstances. I wish religions could live together in peace and I don’t see how obliterating each other helps anyone’s cause. The people fighting wars in the name of religion are all just bastardizations anyways, most people are just trying to get by and want peace. That goes for everyone of course.

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            The billions of moderate Muslims…

            Like, you realize that there’s a lot of different types just like Christianity and they’re all over the planet, right?

            The vast majority are pretty chill.

            Hell, Iran in the 70s was super progressive until capitalist overthrew their democracy and installed religious extremists.

            Most countries ruled by Muslim extremists were put in place by “Christian nations”.

            Do you know anything about this?

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                  Yes I know I’ve been an asshole in the past and I fully admit to that, I’ve mentioned it several times and it’s in my profile as well. I am trying to be more hopeful, positive, and have better interactions, as such, I’m trying to avoid negative interactions. I am sorry if I was a jerk to you. I’m working on it.

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                WTF? Where do you see anything remotely angry or “judgy”??? (That’s not even a word, are you 8?)

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                I should honestly copy and paste this comment in so many situations. A vegan flipped out on me yesterday for literally just challenging an absolute statement they made. I should’ve just responded how you did.

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                  I know the feeling, I spent way too much time before with that then I realize, I don’t want to do this, why am I defending myself so much all the time against angry people who don’t know me and are missing my point? I don’t even like to argue. Sometimes it feels like Lemmy/Piefed is some kind of psy op to make the left into intolerant assholes as much as the right.

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                    Exactly! So many users act like they’ve been watching you do horrible things for years, based on one comment they didn’t even understand. And if you try to explain what you meant, nope you’re lying, they know you better than you do. Good on you for not taking the bait.

                    My blocklist is way longer than it would be in a semi-sane world…

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          Extremely weird behaviour. Although that was the case until around before covid (in some places it’s still ongoing but it rapidly declines, churches led by atheists also rapidly die out)

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            Although that was the case until around before covid

            Buddy…

            It was the case for virtually all of known human history…

            Do you really think it was just the scientists like Da Vinci who pretended?

            Most people pretended, and that kept true believers from acting crazy. They followed common sense rules that kept people alive and the people running the show knew it was just boogeymen for the greater good.

            The problem is you have no idea what timeline the discussion you jumped into was and you won’t even ask.

            Have fun with that, but don’t expect any more elaborations.

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              Most people pretended, and that kept true believers from acting crazy.

              It sure as shit did not.

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              That’s what I said, before COVID. After that they decided not to bother anymore.

              Although this is mainly western society pre-constantine. In places like Asia and the Arab world there was no advantage in pretending, quite the opposite. So it’s more pure there.