• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    I’m sick of Christians who work for the public suing because they don’t want to do their jobs.

    If you cannot serve the whole public, quit your job in public service.

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      Sometimes, a “reasonable accommodation” is to let them quit.

      It cracks me up though. they accomodated him. Put him at a station that didn’t have a flag. then he went and removed the 3 other flags that were simply in view…

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        What I hate the most is that his whole excuse is bullshit. The Bible dosen’t even know what being gay is, it’s only against bronze age booty thief power displays, it knows absolutely nothing about being trans, these people really need to start specifying that they are against ‘loving thy neighbor’ because they interpret out of context verses written in old English they don’t understand to mean they can hate people they don’t like or are currently pretending not to be one of.

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          Yup it’s simply hateful, spiteful people being assholes. Inconsiderate pricks using religion as an excuse to be inconsiderate pricks.

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          it’s only against bronze age booty thief power displays

          I was once in a band called Bronze Age Booty Thieves. Our first album Power Displays didn’t sell too well…

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          Early Modern English.

          Here’s John 3:16 in Old English: “God lufede middan-eard swa þæt he sealde hys akennedan sune þæt nan ne for-wurðe þe on hine ge-lefð. Ac habbe þt eche lyf.”

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            Fair enough, but it’s still not modern English and it’s easy to read a verse in the KJV Bible and think it means exactly the opposite of what it says due to language changes

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              The number of outspoken atheists who started out diligently learning all they could about their faith, often to become a leader in their religion, is high. You don’t have to know much to find out a very old collection of mythology, propaganda, sermons, prophecy, and history is NOT a magical intruction manual from God.

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          There have always been gay people, and in every culture, though. While trans is a relatively modern concept, there have definitely been gender-variant people across cultures too.

          The fact that it’s been vaguely mentioned at all in the Bible suggests it was a non-issue. Romans, for example, social advancement revolved around patronage… which involved gay sex.

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            I didn’t mean these groups didn’t exist, but no legitimate scholar has found any evidence of ancient Hebrews having any concept of sexual orientation or trans identity as we have today. They DID have 6-9 genders, and Jesus himself mentions 5 genders, so it’s not clear how people we call homosexual or trans today fit into that culture. Jesus mentions Men, Women, Eunichs by birth, Eunichs by choice, and Eunichs by force, and there were other designations by his culture, the Bible very specifically forbids one sexual act, a man penitrating a man. No mention of sex with eunichs of any variety, no mention of non penatrative sex, no mention of women having sex with women, it does forbid men dressing as women and women dressing as men, but it is forbidding only the deception of the act, where did men who decided they were in fact women fit in? Is that a deception? We don’t know, and we know rabbis of the day we’re capable of very nuanced application of law, there’s records of entire arguments going on for hours worth of legal analysis, like how to treat a man who’s testicles are crushed, or if his penis is damaged to prevent typical ejaculation, what the law requires, what common sense requires, we also know the law section of the Bible was never in fact a legal system used by ancient Hebrews, it was literally propaganda, and it’s largely draconian, and the legal system used in fact, wasn’t. Rabbis rarely if ever sentanced anyone to death, they viewed human life as sacred to God, so the risk of falsely executing anyone was considered too high a risk in almost every case.

            My whole point is, if you honestly study the text, there’s clearly no stance on homosexual orientation, and no stance on trans identity, what isn’t ambiguous or lacking a mention on, is what ‘‘love thy neighbor’’ means and how to apply it to your life, and how high a priority it must be. It’s very clear. Treat others beyond baseline humanely, do all you can to help others, do more than is expected, and never fail to forgive even highly repeated sin, or face the judgment of God, as any negative effect you put on others, God will act as if you did that directly to him.

            To throw that all out for the opportunity to act as if hate and abuse are validated by their religion is the definition of evil.

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    What if the homophobic lifeguard sees someone drowning that “looks gay”? I don’t know if this guy can do his job.

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    Rule in his favor, then I have precedent to sue every church, business, and government entity that displays a cross. ❤️

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    That someone who believes in the Bible and is professionally contracted to prevent people from drowning is being upset they are doing that job near the Biblical symbol of a covenant not to drown humanity again is making me drown in the irony.

    Please send help.

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    I wish people, regardless of personal beliefs, experiences, or values, would learn to appreciate one another for the things they have in common, and stop being triggered by the expressions of those characteristics that we don’t.

    I love so many people that don’t vote, worship, recreate, or otherwise live life like I do. That doesn’t change who I am, and I would never want to change who they are.

    Stop hating each other FFS.

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    Right wing conservative “Christians:”

    Libs are snowflakes!

    Also

    I’m triggered by a sequence of colors!

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      It’s even dumber because a rainbow doesn’t necessarily mean LGBTQ. Sometimes rainbow is just rainbow.

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        Kids love rainbows. I’m an adult and I love rainbows. They are literally fun colors and beautiful.

        If your religion is making you hate rainbows, it might be time to take a look at your religion and the batshit stuff it teaches you.

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    Jeffery Little, who has worked for the city for 22 years, filed a lawsuit on Friday claiming he is being discriminated against for his evangelical faith by being made to stand in the same vicinity as the Progress Pride flag. Little alleges he was suspended from his role with the department’s background investigation unit last year after he took down three LGBTQ+ flags during Pride month.

    The Los Angeles county board of supervisors voted last year to require the rainbow banner be flown during the month of June at government buildings, which includes lifeguard stands. Little, who claimed the flags present a “direct conflict” with his religious beliefs, fought to be placed at stations that would not fly the flag, as they did not have the right flag poles to fly any banner.

    I gotta go to work so I’ll leave that to comment for myself.

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    This lifeguard only THINKS they’re a Christian. A real Christian wouldn’t care because not only does GOD love all, but we’re all made in his image. Gay L, straight, Bi, Trans, Asexual. All of us.

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      Uhm… do you even Sodom and Gomorrah? LMAO

      You’ve never picked up a Torah, Bible, or Quran, huh?

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        Technically speaking the wickedness of the cities that were under divine review were because they were narcissistic, enjoyed excess and “prosperous ease” without considering properly the poor and did “abominable acts” before God. Those abominable acts could have been anything. We get the homosexuality related misconception because the test involved hosting two angelic dignitaries disguised as humans whom a mob decended on an demanded they let them “know”…

        Funny trick here. The original Hebrew text used for the angels was anashim and the OG word Lot uses for them when he greets the dignitaries is non-gendered as analogous to “master”. Anashim is a non-gendered term, it encompasses specifically both the terms woman and man and means “of mankind”. However, the English translations of the Bible use male gendered terms like “Lords” “Gentlemen” and “Men” for the angels… Meaning the lust for the angels in the original story was probably not gendered. The angels in the original are not named nor gender coded in any way but there were specifically two of them. We might interpret this to mean there were either angels that appeared to be of both genders or that the genders were deliberately not important because the pluralism means they are never gendered by any other mention in the story. Just as in English when a plural is used it disguises the individual nature of the particular makeup of the group. The crowd calls to know “them”.

        The test was ultimately a litmus test failure of the town to show it lived up to the laws of hospitality and morality but there’s nothing specifically outlining gay sexuallity in the original text of that story moreso than any other sexuallity. The abominations could have been anything and the horny onslaught against the angels was potentially supposed to be coded as lust to defile or possess the divine or even just a lack of consent. The crowd isn’t asking if the angels want to come out and play, they are demanding it.

        In the end it was a bunch of English translators who had very specific cultural ideas about who was worthy of the term “Master” that occluded any potential of the feminine potential reading and were the ones who through the cultural game of telephone made it a story about gay sex. It kind of benefited the Church to make it less a story about hoarding wealth and comfort because a lot of individual Churches were very VERY wealthy.