Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.
“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.
When you accept that others rights can be taken away, you must also accept that your own rights can be taken away.
If you accept that groups can be excluded from society, you must also accept that your group may one day be excluded.
If you accept that might makes right, you must accept that one mightier than yourself will one day come along.
If you live by the sword, you will likely die by the sword.
Idk how many times this has to happen throughout history before people act learn from it.
Not just that, their society is fiercely hierarchical, so by its very nature there is already always someone directly above them, and this particular movement has already shown that they don’t see them as equals.
In the wise words of Jello Biafra:
In the real Fourth Reich you’ll be the first to go
LDS is Christian the way a pineapple is an apple. Petey can go fuck himself though.
One just has golden plates and the other doesn’t. Pretty much the same thing.
It really isn’t. The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations. Their propaganda, investment and political arms make them the biggest existential threat to North American democracy and culture as a centralized religious organization.
Not to mention the basis of the faith is that Jesus came to America and your skin color determines if your ancestors were sinners. That’s cuckoo bananas even by christian standards.
Yes well I was really just trying to be funny (poorly) I must admit, good points I’m glad you stated though.
This could impact a lot of Trump votes if not corrected too. I don’t think even he’s so dumb to alienate such a large voter base.
I wish! I feel like they’ll vote Republican until one of their “prophets” tells them heavenly father told them otherwise.
The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations.
Wait til you hear about how greedy the Catholic Church was before & during the Reformation. New denomination, same religion. This is just how faiths inevitably evolve.
Also Mormonism—though I hate using this aphorism because it’s not even true—is as American as apple pie, there’s really no threat to be spoken of here in the usual sense of the word. It’s existed for more or less 200 years now, subsisting along with every other facet of its surrounding culture. Mormonism is American society, it wouldn’t have become so widespread without it.
That’s funny, I no longer count Israel worshiping evangelical Zionists as Christian.
Dum dum dum dum 🎶
How it is with these guys. Its just a matter of time before they get around to screwing you.
I live by the location that Mormons believe Jesus will be when he returns. They built a church with a steeple that looks like a massive space ship on that location.
But also fuck Pete Hegseth. They have a right to their beliefs as long as it’s not harming anyone else.
The purity shit they spend massive amounts of money pushing on social media alone is harmful as fuck.
If it’s the one I’m thinking of, that particular building is owned by the Community of Christ (formerly the “RLDS” church) which split from the “official” Mormon organization shortly after Smith was killed. It’s a wild design. I remember learning about it as a kid and being told that it was a “perversion” or whatever.
Either way, it’s all culty bullshit.
Yes! That’s the one! My bf lives by that one and I live by the other monument they built. This one isright in downtown Independence MO, which is also a very low-income area with a lot of homeless people. It’s jarring to see that sticking up amongst it all.
For those of you who don’t know, there are a lot of Mormons in the KC area because some of them believe the Garden of Eden is a short drive north of KC and that Jesus will return to Independence, MO.
I see more Mormon churches in the KC metro than any other religion, although, I don’t know any practicing Mormons myself.
although, I don’t know any practicing Mormons myself.
They tend to be a bit quieter about their religion when not in a predominantly Mormon area like Utah.
That’s what is kinda weird to me. Kansas City has a surprisingly high population of them here. That’s why it’s weird that I don’t know any. From where I sit right this very second I can see a Community of Christ church. And, their headquarters is here.
Interesting. Hilariously, the CoC (heh, cock) is much closer to the original Mormon church in terms of practices than the far larger mainstream sect.
LDS are Smithians
Brighamites, technically. Because the main organization decided to follow Brigham Young after Joseph Smith was killed. The Community of Christ is the one that broke off and reorganized themselves under one of Smith’s kids. The whole history of Mormonism is insane, but morbidly fascinating.
They came for the Lefties, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the Transgenders, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the immigrants, and the Mormons did nothing.
Now they’re coming for the Mormons, and…yeah, we could help, but fuck those treasonous pedophile weirdos.
Of course, the Kluxer bastard wants “true Christians” and not “pretenders”, and I bet he is also doing this to send a message. Only a matter of time he also gets started on non-Christian religions in the US military, including Wiccan.
mahhh aside from perhaps the Quakers, the rest if 'em. can all go fuck themselves.
I hate to agree with him, but isn’t what he said true? Isn’t Mormonism more like Islam where they both have a new prophet after Jesus but worship the same Allah? They’re both Abrahamic religions, but neither is Christianity.
Ironically when it comes to the nature of God Muslims and Mormons couldn’t be farther apart. Like Christians, Mormons believe in the divinity of Christ, i.e. that he is the Son of God (or “Heavenly Father”), but they reject the Trinity, i.e. that God is one substance in three parts*. Mormons instead believe that God is three separate beings of one purpose and will. Muslims are more like Jews in that they don’t think he was the Son of God, but where Muslims think he was a prophet and the Messiah, Jews are… indifferent? Maybe they think he was some smart guy, or maybe he didn’t exist. Nice story, who cares basically. Muslims reject the Divinity of Christ because they reject the Trinity because the oneness of God is a core of their beliefs.
*the Trinity gets complicated when you start asking different denominations or even different congregations about it. it is a divine mystery, you’re not actually supposed to get it. i didn’t make that up, that is what a lot of christian doctrine actually teaches. but they still argue about it. religion is wild
**i’m also not a theologian so notes will be accepted
I don’t know Islam enough to speak about it when it comes to this type of distinction. LDS however, worship Jesus, and God the Father. The modern prophets are there only to clarify doctrine, perform ordinances, and help direct the members toward Jesus. They don’t supercede Jesus.
This whole thing really just depends on the definition you come up with. You could write a definition that Catholicism is the only Christian religion, because it is the direct decendant of the church Christ built. All other worshipers are offshoots. In practice, that isn’t a great definition, because Catholicism isn’t close to a majority of people that worship Christ. So you need to expand to include those offshoot religions. You don’t want to go too far though, otherwise you get people making their own Christian church, but doing whatever they want in the name of it.
So it is all pedantic talk. I think LDS should be included in Christianity, but I can understand why someone would argue against it, in the name of trying to keep to the core Christian religions.
I thought in Christianity everyone is Christian in the Lord’s eyes?
That’s only true in a small number of Christian denominations.
Seriously go look up the abrahamic faith family tree. There’s a truely staggering number of splits. And the belief interpretation of the scriptures and how outsiders view each wild differ to the point that if you didn’t know better you wouldn’t even realize 70% of them are related beyond Jesus being involved.
You mean the guys who loudly proclaim that splinter sects like the FLDS aren’t really Mormons?
Weird.
Weird indeed.
Source: am ex-mormon.
Most Mormons in the USA are Republicans…
Well duh. Democrats don’t get to go to Kolob!
Not even if they wear the magic underwear?! What about if they give 10% of everything they earn towards tricking more gullible idiots and brainwashing children? Maybe if they dedicate two years of their lives going door-to-door recruiting more morons, and pay for the privelege out of their own pockets?
The female version of those things is a pain to get off of someone.
Just…you’re going to have to trust me on that one.
The in-group just got a little bit smaller
There’s plenty of great videos on how this works in fascist circles by people, such as Innuendo Studios:
https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng?is=YM8DFDYAOYQRNjrn
He has a whole series on the alt-right. Wonderful analysis.
One of my favorite YouTube series. If you’ve got some time, do yourself a favor and watch all of them. There is a playlist on the channel.
Are they YouTube only?
They’re also on Nebula (paid though)
Thank you! I have nebula. I get in the habit of only going to the four or so things I watch, I need to browse around some more.
Not sure, but that’s the only place I’ve seen those videos.
Someone else noted that they’re on Nebula.
That’s how it always goes with fascist and bigots. The in-group gets smaller with each victory until the in-group has no allies anymore.
Well you gotta have heirarchies, otherwise somebody might be promoted for being good at their job
This isn’t even a hierarchy at this point. Not when the goal is to completely exclude the out-group.
A lot a bit. Remember the huge data centers in Utah for spying and government data storage? That’s all staffed by strait laced mormons who can pass a drug test.
First they came for…
my funky underwear?
