• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    The geopolitical circle jerk between the U.S., Russia, and Europe is tiresome. Everyone knows that the U.S. is a corporate financial conglomeracy, and barely a “nation” at all. We do next to nothing to bolster the health of our nation. So when the powers that be deem it advantageous, they jack Putin off under the table, allowing him to enact his own version of the “Ratchet Effect”. No matter what happens, sanctions, proxy war, he wins, because Russia is actually a real nation that has the capacity to withstand these effects. Devalue their currency, drive inflation, ban them from SWIFT banking, they have the resilience and the intelligence to subvert these tactics, and while many, perhaps most of the world has issues trusting Russia, they see the greater danger under U.S. global hegemony… And that really has always been the problem with the Western perspective on warring with Russia, Iran, and China. The U.S. racks up superficial tactical “wins”, while our “adversaries” that don’t change administrations and wildly change foreign policy every four years are able to achieve long term strategic victories.

    *after typing this screed I realize I never even mentioned Europe…but…really…wtf is Europe going to do about any of this? Unfortunately they have accepted at the highest governmental levels to be bystanders to this drama.

    I think there are a lot of Ukrainians that probably understand what I’m saying. It’s fucked. You guys were used and it’s fucking awful. Fuck them up if you can, I guess. But don’t forget the powerful people in Ukraine that sold you out either. Save some retribution for them.

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    I have an Irish comrade who is currently doing an AMA on Reddit, and I stg every other question on there is like “why do you love Russia? Why don’t you consider NATO to be selfless defenders of social democracy? You make me sick”

    He’s not even pro Russia, he just has a nuanced criticism that also sharply criticizes NATO

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    Putin came to power in… 1997? So almost 30 years. In that time, the invasion of Ukraine is I think only the second or third time Russia has attacked another country? The other two are Chechnya and Georgia IIRC, and both of those were quite a bit complicated (and the former was only like a few days).

    Impressive… very nice… now let’s see America’s card.

    Seriously, America is poised to attack as many countries just in the first half of 2026 as Putin has in nearly 30 years.

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      Chechenya was more complicated but essentially it boiled to being prototype ISIS pseudostate which destabilised entire region and Chechens themselves weren’t monolithic on this, Russia fucked it up at first by trying to do it American way while not being America, but what did you expect of Yeltsin.

      Georgia was actually incredibly similar to Ukraine, it started when Georgian comprador government attempted to ethnically cleanse Ossetians. The difference was that Georgian govt was more traditional US comprador instead of full nazis like in Ukraine and backed down after Russia shown they are willing to make a military confrontation out of it. And note that Russia did not even invaded Georgia just enforced back to the status quo which is autonomy and de facto independence of South Ossetia from Georgia, which i think is more than restrained in the face of ethnic cleansing.

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    The US only overthrew a few european governments (Italy, Greece, Russia, Poland, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Georgia). Not enough for them to care.

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      Yugoslavia

      FYI literally nobody in ex-Yugoslavia believes this, not even the most hard-line “yugonostalgic” leftists.

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        It’s not about believing or not. I’m from an ex-Yugoslav country. Why were all of the leaders pro-US and supported by them during the civil wars? You could argue that was the only alternative, but getting foreign support during a separatist war means things. If we are talking FRY and the 2000s protests, what do you think bombing civilians does and do you know the background, training and backing of the organization behind the protests (Otpor)?

        Again, I’m sure a lot of them are glad they got US support and such, but pretending the US (and Europe of course) didn’t meddle into internal politics during Yugoslavia and had a considerable influence for it’s downfall is just not true.

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    I’m pretty sure at this point the world is just 12 corporations in a trench coat and the rest of us are on the fritz.

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    military wise, the USA is not the biggest threat to europe at the moment, russia is. so yeah, europe is more concerned with russia.

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    Who in sweet crystallized Christ fuck is telling you the US isn’t screwing the globe over???

    Like, as a USian I know and hate what this country is doing and at least here I haven’t seen anyone really claim otherwise. Maybe in Zionist havens like major social media but you’re posting to a tiny choir here.

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      Trump is screwing the globe over, he is good for one thing, accelerating the downfall of the empire. Any OTHER administration would have happily continued the imperialist status quo hand in hand with the imperialist EU and NaziTO

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        So, leaving behind the countries that have borders in common with Russia (that might be a little entitled to be afraid when there is an enduring conflict going on) the other countries are just Germany and France wich do not represent the entirety of European culture

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        “Biggest threat” is not “one and only threat”. We’re well aware of what the US is.

        And I guess the parts of Africa where Wagner and other figleaf mercenary groups are most active are conveniently missing data.

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          And I guess the parts of Africa where Wagner and other figleaf mercenary groups are most active are conveniently missing data.

          “The data that definitely exists to support my argument has probably just been hidden by foreigners”

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          jesse-wtf

          The meme you illiterate is “The US is the biggest threat to the world” and Europeans says is Russia. EXACTLY like the data shows.

          And I guess the parts of Africa where Wagner and other figleaf mercenary groups are most active are conveniently missing data.

          Go to the source to see what bias they have and compare this map with other reports at the same year, a lot of countries without data for this report also doesn’t have data for the others.

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    You’re aware that the Soviet Union doesn’t exist any more, right? Like, the Berlin Wall came down 35 years ago, so when you uncritically defend Russia you are actually defending a hyper-capitalist oligarchy with the same economic system as the EU and the US, and not a “communist” opposition to that system (not say the USSR was ever actually communist either).

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      “Criticizing Europe’s bullshit means you’re uncritically supporting Russia.”

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        No, the fact that OP posts about a dozen times per day in outspoken support of Russia is why I accused them of supporting Russia.

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      I don’t care what economic system Russia uses. That’s their internal matter. What matters to me is that they’re the only country with 6,000 nukes, and therefore the only country the US fears. So for my country to be independent, we need Russia to act as a counterweight to the US. (This is also true for many other countries in Asia, Latin America and Africa.)

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      You’re aware that everyone is aware of that, right? If you’re going to argue with a straw man, at least build a better straw man.

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        Look at the OPs post history, they post constantly in support of Russia, China and North Korea, as though Russia is in some way ideologically aligned with the other two.

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          They aren’t ideologically aligned (at least for the most part), but they’re geopolitically aligned by circumstance.

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            Sure, but that’s basically irrelevant to the point being made in OP’s memes.

            Also, there is no ‘for the most part’. Geopolitical alliances notwithstanding, they are in no way ideologically aligned: I’ll say it once more for the people with their fingers in their ears, “Russia is not a socialist state, and hasn’t been for over three decades!”

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              So you’re too stupid to know what the argument you’re facing is and you’re too childish to listen

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                I’m the one who’s comment is being replied to, so I’m the one that defined the argument. You’ve got some nerve calling other people stupid 😂

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                  Sorry how could I not have known you were defining other people’s arguments for them. It’s like I wasn’t paying attention to how you were acting this whole time.

                  I should have made that my criticism in the comment I wrote you nine minutes ago

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              It is relevant, though. They’re geopolitically aligned with China and are the junior partner. It’s ridiculous to think that they’re the biggest threat to world peace

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                I’ve spelled it out twice now, if you honestly still don’t understand I don’t think there’s anything I can say that will make it clear to you…

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                  No, I don’t understand, because I’m not a demagogue. I know for a fact that most liberals think we’re all demagogues.

                  Guess where they got it from: the liberals themselves made it up to smear us.

                  You fell for your own propaganda. You can’t successfully talk to us because you operate off of flawed assumptions.

                  You played yourself.

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      Ask GPT what “critical support” means, spoiler: it’s not double damage support.

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          “Critical thought” is not how anyone learns what words mean.

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            I’m already aware of what the words mean, it was a jab at the way that relying on chatbots for information damages people’s ability to think.

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              Current homework:

              • understand what critical support means
              • understand the definition of imperialism
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                • I actually accused OP of uncritical support (which means supporting someone/something without any criticism).

                • Russia is an imperialist state. The fact that other states are also imperialists doesn’t change this fact in any way.

                Current homework:

                • Ask yourself why you are jumping to the defense of someone who constantly shills for an authoritarian capitalist oligarchy.
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                  I actually accused OP of uncritical support (which means supporting someone/something without any criticism).

                  No you attacked a straw man.

                  Russia is an imperialist state. The fact that other states are also imperialists doesn’t change this fact in any way.

                  No you don’t know what imperialism is and yes Russian is a capitalist hellscape(thank you USA) but it’s not imperialist. Redo your homework

                  Additional homework:

                  • research the multiples definitions of authoritarian and answer how any definition is any different than us-foreign-policy

                  Ask yourself why you are jumping to the defense of someone who constantly shills for an authoritarian capitalist oligarchy.

                  Sometimes OP post something relevant or correct but people hit themselves in confusion after too much critical damage thinking.