Imagine how much of Earth’s storage space is marketing emails that no one reads.
Whats the fucking point if they only let you attach a 25mb or smaller file.
wtf do they need a ph# for? theyve got your email and sms ids(same as ph#). a ph# just seems like a bit of sales pitch food
THATS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE STILL USE GMAIL! Proton Mail has 1 free gb, I didn’t use it when I had the free plan.
“You have 15 GB of space as long as you’re not using it all”
I blame Microslop
New users.
Even still, I moved off Gmail years ago. I keep my Google fingerprint minimal.
Pay for webmail.
Be the product.
Choose the form of the destructor.
Why not both? /s
We already see $1,500 TVs showing ads.
I see a Ghostbusters quote, I upvote
They really think they can get away with anything don’t they… All the mainstream companies do.
Is Proton okay?
Yes, unless you read into the missinfo campaings. They will follow your local laws, but you can control how much info they have on you.
The market is saturated and “don’t be evil” was a long, long time ago…
So not giving away 15GB of free storage is evil? How does that even work…?
I thought being evil was about doing, like, evil things?
It’s not about the 15 GB but there was a time where Gmail was new and fancy - and Google’s slogan “Don’t be evil” as a young and uprising company. As the market got saturated, the business model (or the direction) changed and it’s not only Google, M$ also did reduce free space in OneDrive after many years some time ago.
“Don’t be evil” was just the referral to this slogan and I don’t care if it’s 15 GB or 30 GB today as I choose to pay for the services these days instead of just relying on any free(mium) model.
I agree that Google removing “don’t be evil” is bad. But mentioning that change in this context is a non sequitur.
5GB is plenty for emails, won’t be an issue for 99% of people.
THE problem with google’s storage is that they actively mislead consumers:
- They bother customers during setup and after with: “Do you want to backup your device?” To which a considerable amount of people react to as “Yeah ofcourse I want that!”
- Google does not show any indication where this backup goes or about the eventual payment so people just forget about it.
- After some time their gmail and photos app will start to complain: “YOUR STORAGE IS FULL” - with constant notifications. And their Gmail stops working so they can’t receive emails anymore.
- These regular people confuse ‘storage’ with internal storage so they start looking for ways to expand their internal storage, which obviously doesn’t do anything.
- Eventually they give up and either pay google the ransom or make a new email.
This is the real dark pattern behind their “free cloud”
It is interesting. I’ve deleted almost all my emails from my Gmail account and it just won’t go bellow 50% full. There is no way to see what is taking up the space.
My mother on the other hand has 3000+ emails and it’s at like 15% full. They absolutely do this on purpose.
Did you ever use Google Photos to store your pics? That is what has my Gmail/google storage at 99% full, even though it’s been over a decade since I used it and I disconnected it from all my accounts… except apparently not. You can go through the steps to disconnect, it looks like it works, but it doesn’t. I currently have an iPhone, and if I try to delete all the photos in Google Photos, it will still sync with my phone and also delete the same photos on my phone. No matter what I do, I can’t severe that connection. And so I’m stuck at 99%
Are you sure you’re not using anything else google related that might clog it up? That’s what I’m getting at. Check google one for a breakdown.
likely backing up to your google cloud with photos, files, essays,etc.
Yes, backing up your photos is the killer.
And they don’t even store original quality
oh yea they hide thier back up location very well, you have to go digging in your google drive and click on the backup/cloud option to see where it went.
It is honestly. My Gmail is 16 years old and I’ve only used a third of a gig.
and if you need more you’re probably using a dedicated mail client anyway
I would prefer they didn’t do this, but I understand. Storage isn’t without cost. 5 GB is a lot for email actually. It’s probably intended to reduce abuse from bots. We should probably not be using free email anyway.
Storage is incredibly cheap, though. If Google used S3, the cost for a 15GB account would be pennies a year, and since they host their own architecture it can be orders of magnitude less. This isn’t about recouping costs. This is just about shaking users down for more subscription money.
It’s about tying phone numbers to accounts.
If it were, they wouldn’t tie it to storage space. That doesn’t matter to scammers and spammers; they’d require it for sending to more than x recipients per month, or for API access, or for any number of other things. The one thing spammers and scammers don’t need is storage space. They just need a trusted email gateway and IP address.
New Gmail accounts still get 15GB if they provide a phone number. So it’s specifically about that.
Have you heard about Android?
Yes. And?
they need thier AI bucks somehow.
Gee, would’ve been a shame if Google’s employees go on strike and start their own company.
Thank you Google for TURNING INTO FUCKING APPLE RIGHT AFTER I SWITCH TO A FUCKING PIXEL
GrapheneOS is built for Google devices. Doesn’t really solve the email problem though.
De-googling your life solves the email problem.
Aren’t Google breaking that though?
They wish. They’re adding friction to a few sites, but they can’t force literally the whole world to use gmail…right?
They’re large enough to ban alternative providers from mailing their servers and see little in the way of puahback. But I agree that the future lies elsewhere. Recently started moving email to disroot.org.
Lmao I’m in the same boat
You own a Google phone, and somehow think they don’t already have your number?
