• amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Why the hell is everyone focused on the damn name? Stick to adobe if you don’t like the name. I need good functionality not a name change.

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      25 days ago

      Sure it is. Not the fact that people are used to adobe and don’t like its UI. Yep definetly the name.

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        25 days ago

        Yes that’s my point. Develop a better UI, hell just stop reinventing the wheel and copy adobes a little bit and build on that. The name is great and unimportant at the same time

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        25 days ago

        I mean I get where he’s coming from, it shouldn’t, just use the damn program and don’t focus so hard on the name which in all honesty does not matter where functionality does.

        But also people complain on this one because A) Sex is icky and everyone is a Puritan and B) it has been used as a slur in the past I guess. It’s almost like naming an RNG tool “Free Auto Generator” or something.

        Personally idgaf.

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          25 days ago

          Marketing is unfortunately not about what you personally gaf about, its about mass appeal, what most people gaf about.

          Users are fucking stupid, and will throw a fit over the most banal shit, for no explicable reason beyond ‘thing x gives me the ick’.

          Tell a relative normie you use Fedora, they’ll mock you as a reddit dork mall ninja neckbeard.

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            25 days ago

            Yeah but what I think you’re missing here is that “that’s stupid.” We can still call those people stupid for being stupid, when they complain about stupid things. As we’re all doing currently. The difference is he thinks users should care about important things instead, you’ve given up on that, and I still don’t actually give a shit either way.

            (Tbf also I do agree with him users should often get gud, and I say this as a user, I’m only a “dev” if writing personal bash scripts using copied stack overflow for loops I don’t fully understand counts. I do also agree with you in that they’re probably not likely to get gud, but I still think it would be good if they did.)

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              25 days ago

              I’m basically just trying to say that the vast majority of users are very, very stupid, compared to a power user or actual dev.

              Just think of everyone who bought beanie babies, funko pops, stanley cups, now I guess its ‘Nee-Dough’ or something.

              Thats much closer to ‘the average user’ than you or me.

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                  25 days ago

                  Hell those people use an iPhone and nothing else lmao.

                  Extremely correct, and why I will never stop laughing at Mac users.

                  Nee-Dough:

                  Its… basically a squishy cube, presumably made of something resembling silicone.

                  Tiktok has been going apeshit over it the last few days, people getting into fights at stores to buy these things.

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                    25 days ago

                    Ahh I get it, knead, it’s a stress ball, or cube as it were. I mean tbh looks like a fine stress ball but sounds like it’s having the opposite effect so far lol.

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          20 days ago

          I interpret these kinds of “problems” as identity-bound posturing. I think these behaviors are a knock-on effect of generalized insecurity stemming ultimately from ecological/cultural calamity, and many respond with in/out group signaling.

          It can be frustrating to observe, not to defend some historical precedent, but because enabling those behaviors seems like a net negative. Teaching folks that emotional reactivity is a valid precursor to change results in these kinds of debates: manifest drama for inane shit. I see this mindset and the rabid pursuit of accessibility as an anathema to the foundation of free software. Free software is inherently empowering, but yes, it takes effort to develop the tools to reap the myriad downstream benefits. The struggle to internalize foundational concepts is the very process that creates empowerment. I may be naive and idealistic, but I think a large proportion of the population could pass these rites of passage if not enabled to self-sabotage with identity-related noise.

          Also, I think an important aspect of learning history involves understanding broader context and arriving at acceptance. Acknowledging and accepting our warts is more useful than making knee-jerk reactions that add complexity and dubious associations to the infosphere.