Yeah. It’s real. Really fucking awesome :D

So his lawyer pinky promises he was horrifically beat up, but was just too noble to press charges? lol

So this dude is absolutely awful and deserves all the hate he’s getting but there was video of the beat down (lemme try and find it, one sec). It isn’t worth pressing charges because no one in Hawaii will ever convict the perpetrator. It would be political suicide for a prosecutor to even try to advance a case. I think a local politician (state senator? Mayor?) even commended the guy.

ETA: found it! Apologies for the shit source (YouTube & NY Post) but it also includes video of the state senator giving a commendation with a delightfully amused attorney in the background

https://youtu.be/7tiL8hbKN9c

Is this including the ones actively promoted by the POTUS?

Yeah, although W is like a million times more charming than Vance. And I say this as someone who HATES W.

Also, he barely got in the 1st time (you could argue that he didn’t actually win) and then 911 happened in his 1st term, so at that point, we were cooked. I would still argue that even a 911 type event wouldn’t be enough to get Vance elected cuz he’s just so deeply unlikeable.

You’re 100% correct. And getting removal via the 25th is the longest longshot ever. But it’s kinda wild that we all could die in WWIII while Vance waits for the halfway point, so he’s eligible to be elected twice, even though he’s so uncharismatic he’s never getting elected once.

I thought Epstein introduced them?

But individuals do have power to make Twitter less important. Well, maybe not Twitter, just because it’s 95% bots, but social media companies are usually only valuable if they have users. There are people who depend on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram for their business but 99% of users absolutely do not need to use those services. The analogy with recycling and climate fall flat because it takes many orders of magnitude more effort to avoid most/all plastics/packaging/fossil fuels than it does to just avoid IG/FB/X. The biggest barriers to getting rid of these shit companies is 1) too many people don’t realize how awful they are 2) too many people just don’t give a shit and 3) too many people are addicted to the dopamine hits from these trash sites.

Seriously, just don’t use them. When you’re presented with something that tries to force you to use them, say “sorry, I don’t use Meta products, do you have another way for me to get [the pop-up dates, the invite, etc]”

That’s kinda the point I was making. The meme says “these guys kept child sex slaves”. Someone responds that Clinton didn’t have the same level of involvement as Trump and Epstein. Someone else responded “they want to believe their guy is good”. My response is basically “saying that he isn’t a pimp isn’t saying that he’s good”.

There are different levels of evil. All should be dealt with. Maybe the worst (the pimps, traffickers, ringleaders and financiers) should get priority, especially if they pose a greater threat to everyone else? Pointing that out is in no way excusing the lesser evil.

I haven’t seen anyone in this thread saying anything positive about Clinton. At most, a few folks have pointed out that we haven’t seen any rape accusations against Clinton in the files. I doubt that you’ll find anyone here who doesn’t want this whole mess properly investigated and for all of the guilty parties to get appropriate punishment.

I feel like I could have this same argument with a Trump supporter: Trumpie: “Well, Clinton’s in the files too” Me: ”I haven’t seen anyone tangible accusations, but if he committed crimes then lock him up” T: “You just want to defend your guy” Me: “Um, I really don’t. And please refrain from calling him ’my guy’”

Agreed. 100%

More businesses need to hear people say “I don’t use Meta products “ so that they consider making critical information available elsewhere. And businesses that still use Twitter should be shunned.

I’m worried about the implications that the child sex ring was a honeypot that was supported by multiple intelligence agencies. My understanding is that Maxwell has ties to Mossad and the US government clearly had knowledge of this shit for decades, yet the few investigations went nowhere. Is it simply because the perpetrators were wealthy and influential? Or was it because the whole operation was viewed as an important intelligence asset? In addition to funding the bombing of schools and refugee camps, are my tax dollars also funding a child sex trafficking rings?

Yeah, the Clintons have done absolutely terrible things. I would never claim otherwise. I don’t remember the Clinton administration very well but I don’t doubt that he’s a war criminal.

The meme claims that Bill was “keeping child sex slaves” and that isn’t supported by any evidence that I’ve seen.

Everyone involved should get investigated and tried for any and all crimes.

Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.

Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.

There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.

Most of the founding father owned slaves. Raping slaves was not an uncommon practice at the time and there were no restrictions on the appropriate age of the slaves one rapes. Thomas Jefferson may have started his “relationship” with Sally Hemming when she was 14.

I think it would take a decent effort to get clear proof about the founding fathers raping child slaves, but it is known that they owned slaves and many had illegitimate children with slaves and raping child slaves was a common practice at the time so I think it’s a strong possibility.

Too bad the genius, job creators couldn’t have possibly foreseen this outcome before giving financial and algorithmic support to a malicious, compromised, demented, fool. But I guess they can always retreat to their doomsday bunkers while the rest of us deal with the (hopefully not literal) fallout.

The image above shows that it was rated R, so not a family movie. IDK, that kinda makes it worse in a way? If it were PG then there wouldn’t be any nudity. And a PG movie could be intended for actual teenagers. A rated R movie is primarily for an 18+ audience, so these girls were definitely being marketed to the adult male gaze.

ETA: I saw this decades ago when I was way too young and don’t recall if there was actually nudity.

Damn. People are getting killed over what they thought was a $2/lb button mushroom? I can see making the effort to hunt and properly identify for a $34/lb gourmet. But a bog standard cremini? Madness.

You can’t cultivate morels or chanterelles. I don’t think you can cultivate porcini? I don’t think there are deadly look alikes for those varieties but folks really need to consult experts if they’re gonna dabble in mushroom hunting.

I think people get into trouble hunting for psychedelics since 1) many of the experts (like at mushroom hunting clubs) won’t help with anything illegal and 2) many of the fun mushrooms are little brown mushrooms which are pretty difficult to identify correctly.

TLDR: If you’re looking to make risotto, you can probably learn enough to do it safely. If you’re looking to expand your mind, just buy spores from a reputable source and grow.