Apple is pretty decent actually. If I couldn’t use GrapheneOS, I’d go for iOS.

Something to keep in mind is that Kagi is sponsoring Russia’s war against Ukraine through their business with Yandex.

that push GOS into unsavoury practices.

Can you elaborate on this?

Someone on Reddit made an interesting comment relevant to this discussion:

https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1rn5qiw/fairphone_grew_83_last_quarter_tried_it_for_a/o94f706/

Graphene uses Play services, albeit sandboxed. I don’t think MicroG is recommended by them. But maybe I misunderstood your comment.

What sort of attestation, if any, is required? Play Integrity? If so, alternative operating systems like GrapheneOS won’t work. It’s been a problem with a few implementations so far:

https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

Honestly, the Pixel is probably your best option. Consider getting it second-hand if you can, or try to snag the Pixel 9a on sale.

GrapheneOS has entered a partnership with Motorola, so maybe a cheaper option from their line of phones will be available in the future.

Syncing is a problem without a seamless solution. The official syncthing app for Android is abandoned and syncthing-fork isn’t trustworthy and feels vibe coded. Nextcloud is way too bloated for simple vault syncing.

I’m personally warming up to the idea of using pass.

Out of curiosity, what services do you use for sharing?

Isn’t SailfishOS proprietary?

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GrapheneOS is probably the best choice if you care about privacy nowadays. The only con is it only supports Pixel and future Motorola phones.

If your phone supports something like LineageOS, that’d also be a step up from stock Android or big-tech distributions, although it’s not as good as GrapheneOS.

Out of curiosity, why foes F-Droid warn about anti-features?

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A growing minority wants to avoid investing in US big corp, or in anything US related in general given the current political situation.

I’m definitely one of those people but there just aren’t that many alternatives. Like I said, I did consider Fairphone, but there were so many cons to their devices that it’s just not a reasonable choice for me personally. Which is unfortunate.

Thanks.

Thank you!

I wouldn’t trust any device made by them, regardless of the OS.

What device would you trust?

Edit to say you are basically just rewarding their behaviour.

That’s a good point and it’s one I’ve been considering. I would’ve bought a second-hand phone if it weren’t for the fact that the second-hand market in my country is so bad to the point it’s not even worth considering.

Thanks for the response!

Currently, the Pixel 10 goes for 600€ including taxes, while the Pixel 9a goes for 370€. Both are on sale right now. The iPhone 17 and the Samsung S26 meanwhile both go for 1015€ and 1106€, respectively, just for price comparison. Would you still go with the 9a over the 10 in this case?

I’m gonna have to replace my phone soon since it doesn’t receive security updates any more and I was thinking of going for GrapheneOS. What do you guys think about getting a Pixel 10 for that purpose? My second choice would be an iPhone but it’s both a lot more expensive and also less privacy respecting.

I was also considering a Fairphone but despite rating the repariability highly, there were too many other cons to the device.

Like I said earlier, I didn’t say that you or anyone else should boycott Kagi. I merely informed everyone for transparency. It’s up to you how you compromise your morals, because compromise we all do. I can live without Kagi, and therefore I don’t need to pay them. If I can refrain from supporting war and shitty governments, I will do so. That includes avoiding American companies, which I do primarily thorough self-hosting alternatives to big tech software.

Either way, you’re a very exhausting person to communicate with so this will be the last time I respond to your comments.