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Cake day: June 1st, 2023

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  • Poultry farming is an industry where terms mean nothing. It is rife with horribly misleading terms that are completely unregulated or have weak definitions that are unenforced. This is not as uprising when you see it through that lens. It’s a continuation of existing absurdity that are less talked about

    For instance, “free-range” doesn’t actually have to mean being outdoors at all

    Bringing up a Tyson competitor, the farm manager wonders how other poultry companies handle supposedly free-range-raised chickens. The short answer: They don’t, really.

    “Those birds don’t go outside — you know that,” the technician replies. “They don’t all go out … Look that up online.”

    The manager chimes in: “It’s not like they make it like all of ’em come out and enjoy the sun.”

    “That is strictly for commercial [advertising] purposes,” the technician says.

    […]

    In 2017, the Intercept reported an investigation into a dozen California farms owned by a free-range chicken company that found no evidence of any animals spending any time outdoors. The chief animal care officer for Perdue Farms, a major chicken producer, has even said the vast majority of its free-range chickens stay indoors.

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23724740/tyson-chicken-free-range-humanewashing-investigation-animal-cruelty


    Also as a note, the ruling on this case was from last year

    EDIT: to clarify by “the case”, I mean the original article my comment is replying to



  • Maybe the EU will pass some legislation that will carry over to the US

    GDPR requires the right to have your data deleted at least, but a lot of companies will only allow that if you are within the EU (because of profit and spite, I suppose). Though some just allowed it for everyone instead

    Similar for California Consumer Privacy Act where a lot of companies will only let you do the stuff it requires if you are within California

    Sort of like the “unsubscribe” button you get at the bottom of some emails. Did they have to pass a law to get that enacted?

    Yes, see the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003



  • If headlines can’t even mention the battery cages this lawsuit is actually about at all, what are we doing here? Battery cages are horrifying and just the tip of cutlery

    If the industry ever tells you that they treat anyone “humanely” remember that they are arguing to remove the smallest sliver of requirements. There is still a massive amount of cruelty allowed in other areas too (for instance chick culling, forced molting, etc.) and they are still angry on any requirement

    There also has already been a lawsuit on other provisions in Prop 12 that went up to this current SCOTUS in 2023 and was rejected.

    This almost certainly isn’t even actually about the cost of this particular law to the industry. The latest cost changes are almost all driven by bird flu. No, the thing they fear far more than a tiny increase in their costs is that we’ll actually start waking up to this industry. They worry Prop 12 will inspire more action. The more we talk about how things actually look, the more they worry that they’ll become like the fur industry where people wake up and stop buying en masse over its cruelty







  • Not that pausing this is anything less than insane, but note that SCOTUS has recently given administrative stays and then ruled against Trump after that. Nothing is a given either way

    The fight isn’t over until it’s over. Don’t read this news and give in the doom and cynicism Trump wants us all to have. We can still fight back, and people are still fighting. 5 million were on the street on Saturday. There’s another nationwide 50501 protest on April 19th