Agreed. I would add that most detractors don’t understand what a threat model is and want a perfect solution, for no cost, and easy to use. Something which is impossible.

LOL

And now we patronize.

It is clear if you just take time to ask. You give of what you know and think as if those were facts.

They are like any company, not big, just any company nowadays. Their limit is the limit of trusted computing (can you make a CPU execute somthing without it knowing what it does). All the rest can be encrypted, at rest and in transit.

Can they resist to threat like your government? First… you call it government but it is all the country. Laws were there before since decadeS now.

Can they resist against the state? They can resist, not vanquish, because it is the State. Can they be shut down? Yes. Do they have the choice? No, or their service wouldn’t exist. Creating a datacenter which is virtualy al,ays on is hard, this is why the full globe gave up except few companies for which is it their main business.

Instead of announcing facts which are just opinions, ask questions. Instead of despiting what you can have, see how to improve it of replace it. But don’t diminish what is offered (ffs it’s even free).

And don’t patronize. If you don’t want to discuss then go post this on Facebook. Your context is the U.S. , it isn’t the world, and this place is called the Web. I’m not perfect, I’m not above you, but at least I know that I am not alone, that my culture isn’t the inly one here, and I can appreciate when somebody wants to help.

So let’s tolerate each other without spitting on what other people may like because “it has your gov money”. All isn’t bad. Look at the NASA, the Internet, … We could live together if we want to. The question is do you and how do you start.

It has to be their fault. They have to be as bad as the others. And if they aren’t perfect we have to despite them even more than those who don’t even try and who push fascism in our world, right?

And now let’s focus on the only player who is a bit transparent instead of asking how are the others…

It’s socat. It could be whatever stdin/out (socat, netcat, ssh, ip, ipsec, wireguard, …).

I love you.

It is a very good sales person. But he didn’t understood how could the network (or Internet) change the world, even with his Windows monopole. He had Encarta and lost it, without reusing it, to Wikipedia.

He sold his first software before it was even finished to his own unuversity.

He saved Apple to avoid an antitrust trial.

It’s just business right?

Same situation here. But Signal is a solution (if you can’t self-host nor convince your friends to use something whatsapp-y).

And there’s no encryption at rest so you can do it yourself.

Give me your threat model so I can laugh. You have no idea of what being secure is. Thank you for being yet another troll.

You wrote “you people”. You exclude yourself with some controversial headline. I stopped reading.

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Which country is it?

This is my point: if you can’t afford a server powerful enough then don’t use an AI.

If you can’t afford a server but use an AI you have to accept some compromises. One of those is to be spied on. The true question isn’t to use AI but to accept to be heard, recorded, analysed, and perhaps used against you.

A start-up is a company which hopes to be bought by a bigger one. To be bought at the higher price, they need to have something a big company would like to have. Like data. Especially since those companies are cutting corners to reach the market and survive.

Some aren’t bought but it’s not the majority.

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Seriously?

The only private AI is self-hosted.

I wouldn’t check that high level before asking which hoster they use.

I trust Europ but not AWS, GCP, and Azure less.

People missed those are warnings. They have no imagination so they took those as advices or even manuals. In a sense, they learnt.

With this logic, any country could be reduced to its leader. The reality is less manichean.