Maybe somewhere between Nuremberg and what happened to Gaddafi.

Honestly, just change Iran to USA and Islam to Christianity and it still works, if not better.

If Trump was chosen by God, it’s because God hates the United States and the world as a whole.

Also remember the journalists that need support the most are local papers and news stations. The big ones have plenty of donors, and while it’s worth the support, they are less likely to completely collapse than the news that is run in your city.

Go look for that independent source. They will report more news that actually affects you as well.

Just as a post script- I know I won’t convince you to hate ice, but maybe I can convince you that I don’t hate you. That the left doesn’t hate you. I need to remember the right doesn’t hate lil’ ol queer me. We hate what we’ve been told about each other.

Renee Good’s last words were “I’m not mad at you”

If that’s your bar, then we need to deport every Catholic priest and cop. They are much more likely to hurt someone I, or you, love.

We’ve been brainwashed into thinking some brown kid from across the border who’s parents went through hell and back is the problem. Frankly, we’ve also been brainwashed into thinking the angry MAGA capped West Virginian is the problem. It’s not.

You know the problem. It’s your health insurance premiums. It’s your cost of food. It’s your cost of living. It’s your pain. It’s the same pain that made the brown folks come here and the West Virginian vote for a rapist convict.

That pain doesn’t come from a made up immigrant eating a dog. It comes from a group of men that could fit in a school bus who have ensured we stay disconnected and dumb so they can rob us blind. ICE is here to enforce this belief, not keep us safe.

The only way out is to kill a king. The only way to kill a king is to trust your neighbors. 14% or 5%

The same agents who are raping, murdering, and molesting children in the ICE concentration camps? The same ones who brutalized, terrorized, and murdered people in communities so they could deport immigrants, 5% of whom have criminal records?

Yea okay I’ll keep protesting.

Frankly that party needs to go. We’d be better off if there was another dramatic party shift- send the Dems to the way of the Whigs.

Look, Noam isn’t wearing his glasses, he might think he’s talking to Anthony Bourdain

No no, didn’t you hear? His relationship with Epstein was purely business. That’s why there are Trump branded condoms in the photo dump, it was purely a business thing.

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Which is why it’s so important that we turn out and vote in the midterms. So many Americans don’t vote in the midterms because it’s not for the presidential race.

Anyway if you can vote in the next midterms, show TF up and we could actually get the votes to oust this monster.

I used to have political arguments with my dad all the time, but like in a fun debate team way. It really was a fun part of our relationship until 2020… and then shit got real when I moved to a big city and the fun was gone.

When I moved home for a year, the first few months were rough. Lots of anger, lots of pain, but eventually I came to realize nothing I could say would do anything- to my family I was just woke end of story. So I stopped talking politics at all with them, and started talking about music, or yard work, or how we like our coffee. Honestly that opened things up later on to have more honest conversations that were more level headed. Frankly I got him to agree with DEI as a concept so long as I avoided buzzwords or call it DEI by name.

My dad is still the same guy- still funny, he’s still bright, he’s still kind and would absolutely help a child on the side of the road, he just listened to too much patriot radio. I still call him, but we had to realize our relationship and who we are to each other comes first. Politics might change but he’s always my dad and I’m always his son. Besides, when I came out as bi at 16 he was the only one who told me he loved me so that’s gotta mean something. He’s still in there.

Kamala lost because she was running on a Campaign of Joy™️

The only way to win a campaign is to garner more rage than your opponent. Nixon’s campaign manager put it well- “The secret to politics is to know who hates who”. That’s how they flipped the then deep blue south into a Republican stronghold for 60 years.

Frankly I think this is why we are doomed to civil war, candidates that try to calm things down will always lose to candidates who fan the flames.

Oh video games and weed are great don’t get me wrong, I mean it is the epitome of comfort, but fighting fascism isn’t very comfortable.

I would put emphasis on the anti part though- if you are just sitting at home smoking weed and playing videogames when you need to vote or be in the streets, you are not resisting fascism.

Just because you didn’t vote for Trump doesn’t mean your Antifa. You could be just Enablefa, nihilfa, or survived getting kicked in the head by a horse.

Fair point. My girlfriend is Irish and compared them to the black and tans.

I feel like if someone dressed up as ice and joined in a raid only to cause internal chaos could deeply hinder the operations of ICE as they all become suspicious of each other and lose trust in their team.

It’s like when Jordan Klepper was interviewing Trump supporters. There was one interview where he was talking to a woman who insisted Trump was innocent of intimidating witnesses, and when he pulled solid logic to show he was guilty, she responded “I don’t care”.

I know, it’s been so obvious to me that Epstein was a distraction, and the stuff on top of that was a distraction from the distraction.

Nothing will come of the Epstein list just like nothing came from the Panama papers, and ultimately Trump will die one day, but the damage he’s done to our institutions will stay. Him being a pedophile won’t change any of that.

Basically I put news in 2 categories:

1. Actual impactful policy
2. Keeping up with the Kardashians

Epstein is category 2 for all I’m concerned. Nothing will happen to Trump. At worst he doesn’t serve a 3rd term, which is fine, but his base isn’t going to just embrace democracy after this.