It’s insane that this happens. I’ve had memberships at six different gyms over my lifetime. For all but one, I’ve had to explicitly tell them that I want to renew, or else the membership gets automatically cancelled at the end of the contract term.

And also have their AIs read another 100 emails for them.

Is one supposed to be better than the other?

Yeah, the reason we don’t have those isn’t technological. We could have it today if we collectively decided that we wanted it.

People who start with preconceptions based on labels can still be swayed. It just becomes an uphill battle of figuring out what they think the label means and dispelling those before getting to the meat of the discussion when you can instead just start on the meat.

The debate will probably go somewhere if people took a moment to think about why murder is bad and why choice is important, then consider why that would or wouldn’t apply to this specific scenario.

The issue is in finding buyers who have enough money to spend on those luxury goods.

You know what else takes far less energy than training a single model? One query. Yet, you argue that it’s the main contributor to the energy consumption. Why is that? It’s because there’s a very high volume of them, thus bringing up the total energy consumption. At the end of the day, it’s this total energy consumption that matters, not the cost of doing it once. Look at the total energy expenditure of training, not just the cost of doing it once.

So, it’s kind of weird t0 single AI energy use out here as some form of exceptional evil.

We’re talking about AI here because that’s the topic of this thread. I’ve never seen anyone say that it’s the only problem worth addressing. Plus, if you want to compare energy usage of ads (or anything else) compared to AI, you would first need to know how much energy AI is actually using.

Training is a continuous expenditure. We’re nearly ten years into this craze and we’re still continuously pumping out new models. Whether they’re trained from scratch or not is immaterial. Both processes still consume energy. If you want to justify the claim that training cost is negligible, you would have to show that this cost is actually going down over time and that it’s going down sufficiently quickly.

It doesn’t look like that energy consumption blog post account for the cost of training the model. Otherwise, it should be telling us how many queries/sessions are assumed to be run over the course of the lifetime of a model.

I like to keep to the same routine when possible. Birthdays and holidays interrupt that. No good. I can’t do much for holidays, but since my birthday is supposed to be my day, i can demand this from everyone around me.

With no additional context, if you said that “the balls in this glass are generally blue”, I would interpret that meaning every ball falls within the range of hues that can still be called blue by most people but may be questioned by a few. So 100% of the balls have to be “I can see why someone would call that blue”.

Financing is available for your $1 candy bars now.

Yes

If you have influence, you also have the responsibility to make sure your voice reaches as many people as possible. Screaming this message earlier is a good way of lowering your chances of getting access to a mic at the Grammy at a moment where most people are listening.

You could say the same about people who used the early 2000s Google by entering full questions with natural language and clicking “I’m feeling lucky”. There are always going to be wrong ways to use a tool. But we’re discussing whether there exists a right way. And that right way includes verifying the information you receive, just like you would if you found it through a regular search engine.

The social and environmental costs are real. That’s not the criticism you gave and not what the responses are disagreeing with.

Willingness to look is a pretty important factor. LLMs reduce the personal cost incurred to look up information, similar to how search engines saved us from having to go to the library for every question we had.

We already had subreddit simulator for ages. This isn’t anything new.

Cloud housing when?

The poll didn’t even ask a real question. “Yes AI or no AI?” No context.