It depends if their dear leader orders them to get involved or not doesn’t it.

Depends which. The despot or the worker.

Not propaganda, historical fact. I see many ills in this world, of which the USSR was one, China is one, the USA another. All different, all unique in their own method of tyranny. In this viewpoint is nuance and subtlety. And in that subtlety is context.

So I suppose in your mind all the academics Stalin had murdered all deserved it yes? I suppose murder in the name of the soviet state is acceptable as long they’re political enemies right? I suppose the Uyghurs are all happy and definitely haven’t been persecuted or reeducated hmm?

I can say all of these things whilst also seeing and commenting on the numerous hands the USA has had in coups across the world. The many wars they’ve started, and the lives the MIC has sacrificed in the name of profit.

Authoritarianism by its very nature is intolerance leading to trauma, abuse and pain. It is quite literally scapegoating and persecuting a group of people for political gain, which can often end in the harming and death of said group.

Both sides of the authoritarian equation are built on othering groups of people for political purposes.

It’s also the dimension of the political compass in which authoritarians would prefer we not talk about so I talk about it as much as is feasible.

The alternative to authoritarian socialism is libertarian socialism which is where any person who values both theirs and their fellow humans dignity and mutual respect would want to live.

But, that aside, left and right are pointless measures, secondary in their importance, if both are governed by people willing to remove personal freedoms and sovereignty in the name of however they like to measure progress.

When you rule with an iron fist, when there is no due process, when there is no personal representation only state representation and the ability for change that can only come from a functioning and healthy democracy; people are squashed under the boot of those in power a la Orwell’s Animal Farm. Neither of these worlds are ones I want to live in; nor do I want for any of my loved ones.

And with authoritarian communists/socialists?

So your approach in a nutshell is to tolerate those that are intolerant and would quite happily make tolerance illegal and punishable if given half a chance? Interesting take.

Braid their hair and sing happy campfire songs right? Right??

One does not exclude the other however much you jump to logical fallacies. Exaggerate to make your point all you want, it still doesn’t make it any less realistic.

We really have been too tolerant of intolerance. Just like fascists, you guys need to be ostracised and where applicable prosecuted. Authoritarian capitalism/authoritarian quasi capitalist/communism - both are bed fellows, and both need to go.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this instance was already in your block list when you sign up for any other instance? Then you’d have to actively unblock it in order to see posts from it.

I’m a tolerant person, except when it comes to tolerating intolerance. Ironically, I think by tolerating intolerance we’ve gotten ourselves into a bit of a pickle here on lemmy and more broadly.

Do you agree with the reason for the ban?

How would you know that my post was removed for racism when there was no racism in my post?

I made a mistake in not doing my homework on you. Whoopsie, you got me!

That completely disregards every point I’ve made in this thread /s

I still expect you to answer my questions even though you’re not the moderator who banned me. You’re a moderator on Lemmy.ml but not the one who banned me, most likely an associate of theirs, but I have no proof of that.

You came here unprompted to defend their actions, presented insight only the moderator who banned me would know.

So please would you kindly answer my questions / debate the points I’m making. Thanks.

Ha, yes that’s the actions of a person who has command of the facts and understands the hierarchy of evidence /s

As a moderator of communities on lemmy.ml you have come here unprompted in defense of the indefensible actions of other moderators on Lemmy.ml.

Yet upon explaining how in detail this hypocrisy exists, your response is to verbally shrug as though it’s nothing to do with you and you won’t pass judgement.

Hilarious.

Wow, I see you following my posts. That’s a bit creepy. But I’ll play.

Edit: Liberal is a derogatory term used by anti-capitalist and pro authoritarian socialist/communist supporters to other the pro capitalist or pro democracy group and create an “outgroup”. It is comparable to tankie in its use.

Since when is calling out a particular nation’s intelligence apparatus racism? In fact I criticised the American government in the paragraph previously. You’ve cut out context to make your actions seem a little more reasonable. Here’s that context:

Many of these same allegations can be levied at governments such as the Americans; but to differing proportions and often historical rather than modern contexted. However, rather than one being preferred, it is my opinion that any immoral and unethical system of government does not deserve the support of the people. The fact that you’re trying to garner support for just another form of tyranny is at the least concerning and at the most likely duplicitous and an attempt at manipulation from said government itself.

I see many users on lemmy.ml doing exactly this all the time, but in reverse and being more direct in their description. Usually some kind of combination of “western imperialist country’s liberal intelligence”.

It is not by any measure racism. It’s criticism of a form of government.

Which leads me to my next question: why is it a forbidden topic to talk about the activities of a very powerful and despotic government like the CCP, but in the same breath permitted to fling similar criticism at other countries? I had a user assume I was American in that thread and criticise me based upon it. Ironically I am not. Why was this not also moderated?

Why was I banned for that criticism, and yet the user that called me a shithead (a direct slur) was not?

The more you analyse the actions of any moderator or most lemmy.ml users, the more their hypocracy becomes apparent.

Free speech for me, but not for thee.

Most of my post was a scientific discussion on the loss of the Tibetan language, and proved through academic pieces of research the misinformation/propaganda present in the OP’s infographic.

I think it is much more likely given the apparent hypocracy and duplicity evident in your actions as moderator and my experience with lemmy.ml as a whole, and the experience of the users in this thread which are so numerous, that this was a deliberate burying of that information.

But that’s just my opinion, I have no proof and can’t accept any from you or your team because of the above bad faith that has already been made apparent.

By the way, liberal is a slur used in the same manner as tankie, but by authoritarian communists/socialists. I’m surprised as a moderator of lemmy.ml you’re unaware of this fact.

For clarity’s sake, here’s that original post so that all those that read this can have full context:

Totes.

I was banned from socialism on Lemmy.ml the other day.

For providing a detailed post with scientific references demonstrating how the Tibetan language is disappearing (and how the infographic posted was likely propaganda/misinformation).

I had many users respond calling me slurs and none really responding to the body of my post in any way. Then, instead of moderating the bullying, the mod called me a shithead, provided his own references and banned me to prevent me from responding.

The kicker? The references he linked to supported exactly what I was saying! He hadn’t read them.

Also funnily, the mod log states that I infringed “Rule 1”. I checked. Socialism’s rules are still TBD (after 7 years).

How can any system of government be defined as democratic when that system concentrated power into a single party system? All the while suppressing dissent and suppressing civil liberties.

Democracy is defined as power ultimately residing with the people, either directly or through freely elected representatives. None of which the USSR had. It was a totalitarian dictatorship with power concentrated centrally through the politburo and a dictator sitting at the top of it all.

Did I also spot an apologist for the acts of the great purge elsewhere in this thread?

Also, your “meme” is based on the logical fallacy of false equivalency. Comparing a single aspect of two different systems of government, doesn’t equate that either of them are better than the other. You’ve selectively chosen a single frame of reference that doesn’t prove your argument in your “meme”. It is a misleading and fallacious method of debate.