Good mix of usability and learning curve. You will need terminal, but that’s never been easier with AI assistants to learn how. Plenty of support for applications or open source workarounds. It also is familiar enough to use rather quickly, but not so much that it feel like a Windows clone. Highly recommend starting with Ubuntu.
This will probably be my move eventually. Phone was a gift so I might keep it for a bit doing the most I can to reduce Google services & tracking. Eventually I’ll sell for a pixel
Thanks! Def going to disable play services and other Google options
I’m not refusing to help myself. I mentioned using alternative App Stores, and I’m aware that options like Graphene are not available. I’m just trying to see if there were other options or practical tips people might know, since I’m new to android. That’s all.
Agreed. I assume that might be part of the reason that Lineage and others aren’t supported. Also, it’s not a particularly huge segment of that market.
Thanks! Will do
Thanks for the information - I’ll take a look at the thread. It is a snapdragon chip, so no mediatek thankfully
I’ll definitely check this out from the thread:
Everyone has their own use case, needs and preferences My thought is that you have the following options - not in any order as you will have your preferences Buy a Pixel and install Graphene See if you can install Linage OS, or buy another phone that can Universal android debloater / ADB (not as tricky as it seems) https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater Search and disable apps you don’t want (limited at best) Install RethinkDNS & Firewall. What did I do? On my Samsung tablet, I used Universal Android Debloater AND run RethinkDNS & Firewall. Not as good as Graphene, but cheap / free and 90% of the same.
Unsure as this is new to me. the phone comes to me next week, so I can’t actually check ATM. It’s a carrier unlocked device, if that means anything.


If this was the end result, why did we even have a shutdown? Weren’t these subsidies the main sticking point?
Classic Schumer… hold out for nothing.


This. It’s all in preparation for 2026 and if needed, 2028.


Navidrome/Airsonic with reverse proxy is best. There are lots of Android and iOS apps that stream music from you server. Rather than a reverse proxy, you could try connecting via tailscale maybe? I think at minimum, this would require your phone to be connected to tailscale whenever you want to listen to music. Not sure if this would work or be practical.
Fair enough!
Maybe, I couldn’t say if it’s a premium for privacy, marketing, or what.
As for turning over data without a warrant, I don’t have a problem with companies complying with lawful orders, as Proton does. I don’t think there’s any evidence to support the notion that Proton complies with non-legal or mere requests from LE. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I don’t have an issue with telcos complying with lawful warrants, which is what Lawful Interception requires. but if your telco can only turn over limited amounts of data because that’s all it has access to, then that’s a plus.
Separately, do you have a source that telcos are unaware when LE is wiretapping? LE would likely need the assistance of the telco to do so and the telco should require the warrant.
I don’t think this is really a replacement for the offering that Cape is proposing. Airalo are data only eSIMs and target consumers who need short-term data plans while traveling abroad. This is not a replacement of your primary carrier service and doesn’t give you a phone number. Additionally, other than the transient nature of the temporary eSIM you buy, there are no notable privacy-focused features behind Airalo.
Not saying Cape follows through with its claims, just saying these are not really comparable offerings.


We can all condemn CP and rightfully so. But it’s asinine to think you can break encryption and that only the good guys will be able to take advantage of that.


Don’t think that happened yet when I commented, but there you go - just the justification the UK government is looking for.
True, expensive. Prosper to offset no selling customer data.
Yeah it looks like the cell network is the consumer facing product
What’s interesting is that the DC Circuit doesn’t allow authorities to force someone to unlock their device with biometrics. I’m assuming that Natanson’s home is not inside the DC Circuit.
It’s a legally unclear area right now whether or not authorities can force you to unlock your device with biometrics. As such, it’s better not to use them: https://decentproject.org/should-you-use-biometrics-on-your-phone