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  • Because it’s too complicated. It would be too long of a list for people to remember and its too difficult to prove the harm of individual ingredients and they’re probably almost all fine in moderation.

    Look at where we are now with saturated fats: Every major health organisation in the world says they’re linked to cardiovascular disease and should be limited in diets, and meanwhile hordes of people who’ve read a pop science book or watched a YouTube video think they know better and can eat all the fat they want.

    We’ve tried going against fat, we’ve tried putting the sugar, fat and calories and packaging, people know about calories in, calories out, and yet obesity never stops growing.

    UPF is about the manufacturing process. The idea is that it isn’t going to include the things that you make in your kitchen from whole and processed ingredients, but it does include the cheap easy to overeat stuff cooked up by food manufacturers.

    Also I’m not aware of anyone who says you should eat no UPF whatsoever. It just shouldn’t be a huge part of your diet.


  • I think you’re kind of missing the point of the classification. It’s not supposed to be a perfect identifier of unhealthy foods, its supposed be more useful than stuff like “red meat consumption linked to colon cancer” (when actually the steak is broadly okay, but the stuff that’s been ripped apart and reformed together with a bunch of additives and eaten multiple times per week is not).

    The UPF classification is an attempt to group together all the different kinds of foods that are formulated by food scientists using ingredients you wouldn’t have at home, often waste or byproducts chosen for their low cost, that’s been iterated over to produce the most shelf stable product which their testing shows people eat the most of while keeping profit margins high. It is almost always very easy to eat quickly and therefore overeat, while being devoid of fibre and high in sugar/salt/fat.

    On the topic of fruit juice, even when the ingredients list sounds fairly innocuous, fruit juice extracts are a great way to cram sugar into a product, so you can e.g. consume an entire apples worth of sugar in one bite with none of the fibre. Thats why they count as UPF.