No, they are talking about weights that spits out a body fat percentage alongside the weight.

Considering Russia’s interest in the islands, that might not be all that great of a choice.

It would be nice to have way for admins and mods to make notes on people. E.g. If you are giving someone a warning, you currently need to use an external tool to log the warning.

The memes/absurdity is just about the only positive thing you can say about Trump

Skavau is completely unaffiliated with this action (I don’t even know him), please don’t accuse him of being a part of this. He is just trying to help you understand how you can see this from a different perspective.

I think you misinterpret my disagreement as lack of comprehension.

No, I’m referencing you mixing the moderators into this when I’ve told you they got nothing to do with it. I’m literally trying to take the full responsibility for this instead passing it off to the moderators.

It’s like you all took a course in conflict de-escalation and chose to do the opposite.

I prefer honesty and dialogue over the corporate spiel. Sharing my view points and getting counter arguments is how you learn about people opinions beyond the their rage comments. I’ve already said sorry to the lemmy.world administrators that contacted me about the issue and have no problem saying that in this instance, the pinging was a mistake. I’ve also told you that it wont happen to your instance again as I’ve spoken to one of your admins.

(You’re not even using the politician’s non-apology “I’m sorry if some of you feel upset”.)

Do you want that sort of thing? You make it sound like I’m wrong for engaging with people who disagreed with the pinging instead of passing off some fake apology and not engage further.

I made precisely two accusations in that post:

(1) Like other spammers,you thought that your message was more important than people’s subscription preferences

Yes, that is a wrongful accusation. I only wanted to help someone who asked for help with their migration. I do not think my message is more important than other. Pinging does not suppress other people’s messages. Everyone can ping, it’s built in feature meant to be used. Just because you disagree with the usage, doesn’t make your unrelated accusation true.

(2) Everyone involved in this mass spam is completely unrepentant and you all sound like you’d do it again in a heartbeat if you had another important message you wanted to share.

This is also completely wrong. Blaze have said sorry in multiple comments, one of those comments were even a reply to you, so I really do not appreciate you falsely accusing him of something that is provably false. I’ve also made it clear in multiple comments that this wasn’t the intended outcome of the action, and that the notification would need to be revised if ever done again. How is that not making it clear that I wouldn’t do it again?

I’m also not willing to accept the statement that this is unequivocally a bad action to take. I’ve done it once before and the comments in that instance were all positive, only a single person downvoted the comment pinging users. Based on the feedback from this instance, it clear that it’s contextual when it’s a good move and when it isn’t.

You’re blowing this out of proportions, and again, this doesn’t have anything to do with the mods, if you’re going to reply to my message, at least read it first.

You’re also making a bunch of wrong accusations. This was a community migration, you got pinged because you have interacted with the community. I was asked to help notify people of the migration, this isn’t something regular that clogs up people’s inboxes. You gotten one (1) ping from the script, your replies have taken 10x the amount of time the ping did.

First off, there isn’t a really bot involved, it’s a simple script that collects a list of people that have interacted with the community in the last year as there isn’t a way to get the subscription list. Second of all, the tagging only notifies, there isn’t any command or authoritative language included in the message. The mods weren’t even involved in this instance by the looks of it, I’m not sure by what angle you view the ping as authoritative.

It was also a single ping, not some repeating message that spammed you multiple times.

I hope that you consider the above as fair, and not overly critical. I’m not trying to throw stones. Everyone is human here. Well, except for the bot. But even it makes mistakes.

Not at all, I’d say all well reasoned feedback is always welcome, and I mostly agree with all your points.

To mention a things:

• The mass tagging instead of DMs were to spare the server from spamming DM requests. Originally though, the bot was written to reply to the latest post or comment you made in the community, but similar to sending DMs, mass tagging in a few condensed comments is “tidier” in some sense.

• The script (it isn’t really a bot as it requires manual input) was set to look 365 days back, which might have been fine for football@lemmy.world where it was originally used. I suppose for a community that have more non-subscriber engagement, a tighter timeline like a week or month *might *have been better.

• If I could have gotten the subscriber list via the API, I would have done so. I suppose a coordination with the admins to get the subscriber list would be better.

I think blaze needs the good luck more than me. I’m not a part of this community as I don’t watch movies and TV, I was just doing this upon request. Granted me my first ever mod/admin warning though lol

Seems likely yeah. I’m sure there were some false positives though, but it didn’t receive any negative comments and only a single downvote. Different demographics for sure,

https://gitlab.com/UlrikHD/lemmy-football-automod/-/blob/master/src/migration_notification.py?ref_type=heads

Here’s the script. It’s pretty messy as it was supposed to be a one-off script when football@lemmy.world migrated to !Football@lemm.ee and was modified from sending a DM to just mass tagging people. You can’t get the subscriber list via the API, so you have to check for activity.

We live and we learn 🙂

People are different and have different views on what’s acceptable and not. Maybe the (smaller) football crowd are more interested in making sure they stay up to date with the correct community.

It could also be that most people that were pinged weren’t subscribers, but one-time visitors from c/all. The influx of Nicole spam could also have put people more on the edge, who knows.

If you find it genuinely distressing, I’m open to hear your opinions and view point. From my own perspective, I don’t see how a single notification that let’s you know that a community you’ve interacted this year is migrating is problematic.

But again, I’m open to hear the reasons why I’m wrong and causing emotional trauma, as my intention was only help blaze with his community migration.

I 100% agree, it would be a much better solution and would integrate well with AutoMods. I suspect it’s not available for privacy reasons since it would enable you to scrape every community someone is subscribed to, which people may not want exposed to regular uses. Similar to how you can’t see who/what people voted.

It’s really no different from the reddit automod sending notifications as a DM, it’s just more visible when done wholesale via comment tagging instead of sending a DM to every individual

You’ve interacted with the community, the subscriber list isn’t available from the the API AFAIK

Sorry for the delay, the bot has posted now

A lot of famous scientists make their breakthroughs at fairly young age, before their mind gets locked into a certain paradigm. Look up Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, which forwards some interesting ideas on how science is conducted.