It’s not. People act like this rise in fascism came out of nowhere and I’m saying that there were signs. People didn’t want to read them because it would have interrupted whatever fun weekend they were having, or whatever, but the signs were there. This has been an ongoing project for decades. It didn’t start with Trump and it won’t end with him either

I have to. But I don’t believe it will do anything. The United States is Balkanizing, and will cease to be a functional anything within the decade. Voting or not.

Oh, so I wasn’t feeding and clothing immigrants in the largest open air detention facility in the history of the country during the Biden admin? Weird, I guess that was a dream. I guess I dreamed all of the family separation and children in prisons back during the Obama admin too.

Nope, you should support candidates that actually care about your best interests.

In my opinion, it does not. He could choose to spend every penny he has on making life better for folks until he’s as poor as the rest of us. Instead he chooses to get richer.

I vote. I vote in the primaries, and the general elections, and the special elections. That doesn’t mean I’m deluded enough to believe it’s actually doing anything, but obviously harm reduction is the only path we have.

Trump is just continuing the same policies that every other president has put forward. Some times the have a D next to their name and they nicer things for social issues, and then everybody forgets that they’re also war criminals who are enacting a massive anti-immigrant deportation policy.

If you think Pritzger is any different, than you’re probably too stupid to realize you’ve been voting for all of this to happen the whole time.

Oh no, I’m much more cynical than that. I vote, even though I know it’s pointless.

If you really believe that we can just elect the total collapse of American culture away, then I think you need to do some soul searching. Learn to be resilient, nobody is coming to save us.

California, Illinois, Minnesota, Maine, New York, and “many others”.

I’m down with eating him last, but as long as he is one of them, I’m not voting for him. There is no such thing as an ethical billionaire

Ew, please don’t simp for billionaires

My point wasn’t really about the price, but availability. You said you remembered Walkman as “way way later than the 70s” and I was just pointing out that, technically, they were kind of around the WHOLE 70s, just not priced or marketed in a way that they would have been very common, and hence why you remember them “way way later” (probably sometime around 82-84, right?)

The Walkman came out in 79 and was cheap enough for a present to a teen or young adult by 82, at the latest. Hell, if you wanted to raid your parents’ stuff, they may well have had a (mono) folio style cassette recorder or even a Sony TC-50 cassette recorder/player (which looks exactly* like a Walkman), made as early as 1968! They brought them to the Moon during the Apollo program. That’s right, cassettes technically came BEFORE 8-Tracks.

But they were too expensive until the late 70s, and by then most people already had an 8-track collection, so it took a few more years to mass adopt.

Source: I have mono demo tapes that my dad recorded from his poor Oklahoma farm town in 1970

I think you should just sit down and watch Everything is a Remix. The whole series.

https://www.everythingisaremix.info/everything-is-a-remix-remastered

Please go back and read the several different times I say exactly that in my previous comments. We don’t disagree about that. We just seem to disagree that people who do use “-ism” labels can also be helpful people.

Then, I don’t know what to say to you. Having conversations with low information people with yield low information results. That is in no way relevant to what we’re talking about. You might as well have said “Yeah, but lots of people I know have never even heard the word ‘fission’ before” while in a thread talking about nuclear science.

That word only exists in English? That’s weird, I wonder then how so many people from non-Engliah speaking countries learned about it then?

“Its 2026 and in my third week here on North Sentinel Island, I’ve discovered that, despite a century of a world super power using the word ‘socialist’ in the name of their country, somehow these people have never heard the word, ‘socialism’”.

That’s how you sound.

Once again, I don’t give a shit what people call themselves, so if they are good guys, they are on the same side as me, because that’s the side I’ve chosen? People claiming to be socialists but they’re not actually socialists, then they’re not socialists. That’s not a bad guy/good guy thing, that’s just how words work.

Again, there are incredible people who have been vital to the socialist causes who would never call themselves socialist, and there are no problems with that.

My problem is with you specifically. The label isn’t my agenda beyond just trying to get you to stop caring about what someone.calls themselves and start caring about what they do.

Hi, venturing silver here (sending that shit back, too). Do you have a handy link to all of these changes that I can send to my old scout buddies?

I think you’re way too hung up on labels. Why do you give a shit what somebody else calls themselves? Maybe you’ve just been meeting socialists that know you have a weird anti"-ism" thing, so they just don’t use that word and instead describe ideas to you (which is a fairly common tactic to take around somebody that is slightly unhinged). Nobody said everybody needs to be any kind of anything. There are lots of helpful people to socialist causes who don’t consider themselves to be socialists. That’s called critical support is is highly valued.