What are the best Fedi alternatives?

https://tankie.tube/

Although Invidious is now broken due to recent youtube changes, that always happens tho. Cat and mouse game

Yeah I really needed it tonight and it was a major disappointment that all of the public instances are broken with no ETA on being fixed. As I mentioned in another thread, I love invidious, I’m deeply grateful to the devs an those who run the public instances, I deeply mourn piped, but I fear for invidious’ future. It already seems like a once much more thriving community has been struggling to keep going. Like, it was sad to see ggtyler leave the scene, though I get why and can’t blame him.

I know it’s self hostable of course but I don’t think most people are willing to do that, tbh I’m not even sure I am. But I guess I’d have no other choice if the public instances all went kaput because I will not be using that disgusting site youtube and giving them more traffic. I’d be too bitter to be able to enjoy or even focus on any of the videos.

oh yeah, reddit even banned the sub for it, r/invidious. What fuckin’ bullshit is that, you know?

I do too. Like, exactly - I use LibRedirect to make sure I never end up at youtube but only an invidious instance, and I run ublock origin religiously everywhere (even though it’s thankfully not needed on invidious).

But I really do fear for invidious’s future. Like right now it’s totally borked because of more youtube fucking around with them. I’m sure they will get it working again soon, but there are only 3 public instances now, they’re doing it just because they’re cool, but it’s not easy to constantly be fighting against youtube’s changes, they have to pay for servers and don’t get enough in donations to make up for it, so I couldn’t blame those last 3 for burning out at some point, like ggtyler did. And that’s even if youtube doesn’t finally do something that breaks invidious for good, like how pipe is now completely broken. Sorry if I’m dooming a bit, but it does sometimes look pretty bleak.

No. Most of what Russia does on the world stage is good, it is one of the biggest supporters of many global south countries and one of the few remaining bulwarks preventing US imperialism from running completely roughshod over the global south. For example right now, see Cuba and how Russia is providing support and oil as the US tries to starve them of energy and starve them to death. You may have been taught Putler=Voldemort, but no, Russia at this point is acting largely as a force for good in the world.

Ah ok, my mistake. I saw you comment “Hey everyone, it’s time to come discuss Capital again!” on that reading group’s first gathering for Volume 1 Chapter 1 and so assumed that meant it wasn’t your “first rodeo.”

Lol, this just gets better and better. The person you’re responding to and accusing of not understanding economics is someone who literally hosts the reading groups for books on economics, arguably the most definitive books on economics ever written, as well as scientific socialism and socioeconomic theory, who has read Kapital multiple times, maintains the active reading list for multiple lemmy communities, and has doubtless read more about economics this year than you have read on any topic (from See Spot Run to Harry Potter), in your entire life. But you’re telling him he doesn’t understand basic economics.

Seriously, if you actually have any interest in pulling your head out of your ignorant ass and maybe growing the fuck up a little bit, go look at his reading course suggestions on economics, it’s section 3, and get to reading. Twerp.

Wait, is this a bit and someone is actually playing the role of dipshit liberal know-it-all? This must be a bit and I fell for it.

And now an “I know you are what am I!” comeback attempt? Are you actually in grade school?

Also I’m a She not a he, “buddy.”

A BigBrain with a 5th grader’s (at best) understanding of economics who has never even been exposed to the labor theory of value and who literally doesn’t even know what Socialism is (confusing it with some form of Social Democracy) bursts into a room full of people who have been studying economics for years and starts explaining to them his ever so smart 5th grader’s version of economics. It’s so on the nose it’s like a badly put together meme.

Is this sarcasm? The venn diagram that represents overlap of what nazis believe & value vs what the CIA believes & values may not be a perfect circle, but it’s fairly close.

Communism allows everyone to pretend to have free stuff by declaring those that actually make it less than human

I know you’ve been banned (not unreasonably so) and can’t respond, but if you truly believe what you wrote above, you owe it to yourself to find out how you’ve been lied to. Communism at its most fundamental core is about alleviating the exploitation done to “those that actually make it” (workers). Communism elevates everyone to personhood, as opposed to capitalism that only does so for the ownership class.

Sounds like we’re in agreement that Russia broke the ceasefire by invading.

Not really, no. A ceasefire becomes void when on of those who agreed to it starts, you know, firing.

It doesn’t matter whether Germany was forbidden from “assisting” Ukraine, the point is that it is openly known that the West had no intention of honoring the agreements and used them only as a ploy. If you want to cynically claim ‘that’s just shrewd military tactics, it’s Russia’s own fault for believing NATO/Ukraine’s coup regime promises, ceasefires don’t mean shit, lol!’ then fine, but you can’t then hold the position that Russia are the ones who can’t be trusted with agreements or that they are the ones who broke the agreements.

There was nothing in the Minsk agreement that said Ukraine couldn’t defend itself from future invasions.

There was plenty in there about not continuing to shell Donetsk, which of course they did, frequently killing civilians.

Surely, if Russia is indeed so benevolent,

Who is calling Russia “benevolent”? In fact I specifically said that Russia is probably only making the offer because they know it won’t be accepted.

Ukraine wouldn’t need them going forward in this hypothetical peace?

Why wouldn’t they? I’m genuinely not sure why anyone would think such a thing. Like do you think that just because they tentatively accept this peace offer they will suddenly be fully propped up economically by Russia after having completely handed over their public assets to NATO countries, largely in exchange for the weapons that have allowed them to put up the resistance that they did against Russia? Do you think that countries exist in their own vacuum and there wouldn’t be massive repercussions (read: severe consequences) for breaking with the western countries they have relied on since 2014 and outright depended on since 2022? And that’s Ukraine as a whole irrespective of who is currently running it…

Most of that becomes secondary when you consider that the current government Ukraine (the ‘regime,’ if you will), the people who make it up, have an interest in maintaining their own positions, as is true for literally anyone holding a position of power. Above reasons aside, that current leadership of Ukraine would not remain the leadership long without NATO regardless of whether or not they accepted this offer if they didn’t have NATO backing. Said government and NATO are inextricably tied, said government only exists because of NATO. So I doubt that government wants to accept the peace offer either and isn’t necessarily in their best interests even if it absolutely is in the best interests of the Ukrainian people, especially the ones being forcibly conscripted to go die on the front in a war they don’t want to even be involved in.

This is very acceptable to anyone rational. Russia can (and probably will) end up taking a lot more. Putin is not serious about this proposal only because he know the fascists in control of Ukraine’s military won’t accept it or any other peace offerings until every last Ukrainian other than themselves has been forcibly conscripted and killed.

After Ukraine and their NATO backers blatantly violated peace treaties, Russia entered an already ongoing civil war where Ukraine was illegally and violently trying to ethnically cleanse a minority population within their own borders, killing men, women, and children while doing so, and they did it in front of all of us. Those are the facts, and you can confirm it with any independent news source.

Russia doesn’t have a long list of breaking peace agreements or invading sovereign countries. On the other hand, NATO, particularly the US, have a disgustingly long list of violently invading countries under paper thin pretexts and lies. It’s not Russia whose word isn’t worth jack shit.

I suppose easily verifiable reality probably would seem like a “weird angle” when you’re not used to ever seeing it.

lol gottem.

I have to admit, it is amusing to watch bootlickers fail to keep up with The Narrative. It’s understandable when they’re only a couple talking points behind, because it must be hard for anyone to keep up with all that shifting bullcrap. But often enough I’ll still see lines trotted out like “Russians are fighting with shovels and are amazed to see paved roads.” It’s very rare but every now and then it’s still possible to come across someone who brings up the Ghost of Kiev and still believes it.

Apparently at least 134 lemmy users who claim to support Ukraine seem to think that yes, Ukraine should be flattened rather than have peace. With friends like these, who needs enemies? But then it’s pretty clear that most of them don’t actually care about Ukrainian people, since it’s fine with them that Ukrainians who want nothing to do with it are being conscripted and forced to fight against their will and die so long as that mean old Putler doesn’t get his way!

They can’t show you. Because he never said that and Russia never expected that. These geniuses don’t understand the concept of attrition and apparently think Putin doesn’t either. But that won’t stop them from just making shit up that sounds nice to them, especially if it helps them cope with the reality that their team Ukraine is losing bad and has no chance of ever getting back the territories it was so fond of shelling even before Russia got there.

I knew this already of course, but reading through this thread has been a great reminder that NATO bootlickers will just make up whatever shit they want that fits the narrative that they like to believe, and they will just run with it. Even when the exact opposite is true and they are obviously 100% projecting, like saying it was Russia that broke agreements that literally anyone can check to see that NATO country leaders admitted to breaking. It’s so wild to me how much these lemitors will screech about Russian propaganda but then turn around and happily drink deep from the US state department propaganda water fountain… and then ask for a firehose instead.

ukraine doesn’t have a choice, they have nowhere to go. they can’t pull out of the conflict because they are literally the one being invaded

You are right in that they have nowhere to go but it’s because NATO won’t let them accept peace but will force them to keep fighting until that last working class Ukrainian is dead. Russia is literally offering them a way out of more bloodshed right now, literally the topic of this post. They also could have avoided all of this by simply honoring the Minsk Agreements, but it was Ukraine breaking those agreements (including by shelling their own people in the east) that led to Russia “invading” by entering a conflict that had already been initiated by Ukraine trying to ethnically cleanse the east. It’s funny you start by saying that Russia is untrustworthy, but Ukraine and NATO are the ones who very explicitly and admittedly broke their agreements.