Honestly I have never heard of upscroll. Whatever you did sounds like a good thing to me, especially the “Here’s more of the thing with more people and ticking more of your boxes you can be a part of” as a suggestion.

It doesn’t sound as tone deaf as “Use Linux” advice, although it’s also an area where I wish people took “Use Linux” as more of a “Here’s something you like” instead of “YOU MUST DO THIS”.

You can’t exactly blame people for being stupid when you realize the conditions necessary for well learned, aware citizens with empathy are always being destroyed by these so called billionaires. It’s not a coincidence that private cities and walled estates for the rich are the trend. They live in socialist utopia and sell rugged individualistic capitalism to the masses.

Think about how much industrialization and development happened. Now think about how much we have lost touch with how to live meaningful, fulfilling life without our needs going unfulfilled.

Alas, nothing can last forever. Greed and hubris contribute to the destruction of societies. History teaches us.

First of all these billionaires can afford to replace for their kids; what social media is with actual socialising that is destroyed by fear, nimbyism, and systematic destruction of third places for normal people. that’s what private cities and walled off estates are for. They will continue to enjoy the fruits of socialism while selling capitalism for everybody else.

This is not a force to be triffled with or dismissed as so easy to escape from.

if you have a link to the list/copies of it, please share it here. We can spread awareness so we can get some traction.

“The most popular OSS is Linux, and it doesn’t run on economic incentives”

This example falls under the 1st monetization model. But I still think the Linux Foundation pays all the core maintainers of the kernel good salaries/grants.

Your argument is unfortunately diluted by your example. Hell I can’t come up with a good example that is not monetized well.

thanks… I guess santa can put me on the naughty list early this christmas cause I got the presents already!

thanks for the deets I have some thing to do for christmas

thanks for the deets I know what i will do for christmas!

actually as a millenial i left the torrenting world when i graduated and got a job back in 2015. Now when i want to return, I realized I am old and don’t know the best places to get good torrents. I searched on one of the websites of tpb last year and nothing came up.

I am rusty and don’t have much time but i am starting to feel the bullshit by streaming companies now and i need to get back on the horse.

good thing my gmail is full of spammy bullshit.

who is the thief here? One who wants outsized profit beyond 10 generations of children? Or the average overworked joe who hates dealing with the 3rd 2 minute ad on a 10 minute video?

Maybe realise that there’s more important things to worry than denying “projected profits” from a billion dollar megacorp which steals regularly from people (in the form of bribing politicians to make policies that benefit them and disadvantage actual people, or destroying the earth for training LLMs, or stealing content to use for the same LLMs)

also: Actively censorinv the mention of lemmy… at least on reddit as far as I am aware. Maybe even threads.

when tech folk get milked by every other merchant and pay extra, while getting ripped off… we do feel like daily wage workers.

then you’re oddly commenting on a thread about striking… which is secondary to the important step of building organizations and support structures. Its hard to near impossible for people to strike who depend on that pay check to clear debt, pay rent, etc. Participating in regular organizing events is the right advice, and you got off on the wrong foot asking first for people to strike and only when asked questions you revealed people need to organize. without the proper support structures and alternative means of income in place, it is near impossible to convince people to strike. They need the strike because they don’t have financial security to stop obeying their boss. You’re ignoring the initial situation. That’s creating a perception of you being about only what you think needs to happen without considering others.

Edit: I did not mean YOU specifically asked people to strike first but you get the point. I am reacting to “we need to strike” as a sentence on its own.

maybe try to win over people instead of assuming we don’t know how tough it is out there as a blue collar worker? I didn’t say your life was a walk in the park. I said we as tech workers are still breaking our health for capitalist profits which we don’t see much of. Why do you think I chose an office job? My father was an assembly line worker making automotive starter motors. He came home and slept is all i remember from his working days. You think you should feel proud of someone going away from backbreaking work or do you think less of them because they decided to make their lives a little bit easier?

If you still get paid for a job not well done… it’s still hurts the company. Believe me, there has been an attack on tech workers by the industry. Firing people during record profits, using LLMs to upset the negotiating power of artists and software people alike, not giving inflation adjusted pay hikes, etc. You can even see the billionaire owned media grind their gears trying to come up with words to discredit workers doing their bare-minimum such as “quiet quitting”.

It shouldn’t be a conspiracy theory to claim that a few people control the reins of a lot of workers… in reality it’s a community of few thousand billionaires cooperating to oppress workers.

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Just because we don’t physically picket in front of our offices, does not mean we are not protesting. It’s just not visible in an outward manner.

And just because we all seem to be doing our own thing, doesn’t mean we aren’t organizing. We just consider organizing as just quietly aligning our wallets and behaviours without being overt about it. I am sure there are a lot of organization for software developers for people who do want to be loud about it too.

Labour is physical work but working your eyes and brain is also taxing. It’s just a different set of muscles/organs. Sitting at the desk all day is also taxing. it’s just not evident enough to people who see an AC and think that’s comfortable. It’s not healthy long term. Leads to all sorts of health issues.

Many of us tech workers joke that we will make our bag of money, retire, and go do farming. But you must understand why we joke like that.

For a lack of physical activity, desk workers suffer numerous health issues due to sitting all day/lack of movement. We are deprived of natural sunlight and wind in our badly lit offices staring at bright screens.

My point is that I said i felt isolated by blue collar workers not considering tech workers as the same class. You just went ahead and proved my point.

this is one of the reasons you don’t see class solidarity from tech workers. The blue collar bunch think we are somehow same as the capitalist class.

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I also think the definition of labourer is not as myopic as you make it out to be. If one sells their time/works for money then they are labourers. Only those who make their money/capital/resources work for them cannot be considered labourer. Even a manager is a labourer. I would exclude CEOs because they invest and are also board members in their buddies’ companies. Their employ is just a facade to maintain control and keep the power “within the family” so to speak.

you should try to get off of your imaginary high horse or you might hurt yourself.

A strike is a refusal to commit labour to the company. Same as not doing a good job. In japan the ticket checkers had a strike where they did their job as usual but did not collect the payment for issuing tickets. THAT was considered a strike.

why must quiet quitting not be considered too? We don’t participate in whatever greedy venture by doing the bare minimum.

I didn’t blame blue collar workers. I said I was isolated because even though both white collar and blue collar workers sell their labour for a living, somehow we are never accepted as real labour just because the elite among us make $500k a year for instance.

Eh… having unions sounds good to me… a white collar worker. I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers. So it makes me feel isolated. Don’t be mistaken, we keyboard thumpers already fight corporate bullshit daily. Th e disdain is from blue collar workers.