Yeah I dont know how the army does it, but civilian aircraft would have to be “repaired” by being stripped and rebuilt or they’d never be considered flight ready. The distinction between destroyed and damaged is just the Air Force saving face.

I didnt learn much about ICE tactics or anything new about the state of things in MN right now.

What I did learn is that the Marshall family is fucking rad.

I don’t know where else to ask this question…or even if I’m formulating this question properly in my rage.

Violence in the streets seems to be inevitable to me at this point with the recent revelation that Minnesota will not be allowed to perform a state-level investigation in to Renee Nicole Good’s death. The sheer audacity of the injustice, the inhumanity before, during and after this event, the clear and shameless lying. Now, they are attacking your children. If Americans take this lying down then there truly is no Rubicon, so at this point I’m practically hoping for violence, because how many more dead would the alternative bring? That feels wrong to me, but if no one stands up for these victims, then obviously their number will rise exponentially. But that’s not my question.

My question is, when this thing explodes and the violence breaks out. When Trump and his goons do the only thing their limited minds can think of and try to “crack down”. When it all goes to fucking shit… then what? Line up on sides like a dodgeball team and States start rebelling like it’s 150 years ago? Isolated city-states locked out from Federal support and interference? Trump declares himself President for Life?

It’s not weird that those resisting fascism have no solid plan, this is being thrust upon them. It might have been predictable but I can’t blame people for not really believing it until folks started dying. But it seems weird that the instigators of this fucking circus don’t even seem to be able to tell me what their fucking goal is. Do they honestly think they can create a brutal Christofascist ethno-state out of modern America? That no one will stop them, just because no one has killed them yet? And more insanely, if they do succeed, do they think they’ll all live through that attempt?

Of course I agree with you completely, it just further illustrates ICEs intellectual dishonesty.

Obligatory “Fuck ICE” naturally, but this one is particularly jarring. For 3 reasons-

A) “from a pick-up truck travelling in the opposite direction”. What. Tha. Fuck. They are drive-by pepper spraying brown people without pulling them over?

B) Goes without saying at this point, but everyone in that vehicle was a US citizen.

C) DHS straight up lied, denied that anything happened in that parking lot, at all. When it comes to ICE misconduct, the Federal government’s official stance is “pics or it didn’t happen”. Which is a good reminder for everyone to film these animals constantly.

I want to ask, “When will this insanity end?” But of course I know the answer. When the American people make it end and not before.

I’m late to this party but I always like to chip in on Luigi threads:

1. That other people were inspired to kill CEOs by this killing is irrelevant. I mean, it’s debatable that it’s true at all. But even if it were, that feels relevant only insofar as this is a jury trial - and thats not a bug of a jury trial, it’s a feature. Public sentiment doesn’t really get a say outside the 12 folks in the box.

2. There is a serious chain of evidence issue with the supposed murder weapon. Body cams are turned off, (improper) when Luigis bag is taken from him, and according to filings, that bag wasn’t searched until back at a local station over 30 minutes later. That strikes people as suspect as it’s outside normal procedure for cops, who would normally search a bag right away during the arrest. The cops were alone with that bag for 30 minutes prior to “finding” the gun. Most unbelievable, they expect us to believe that someone capable of this killing, and producing an inherently disposable 3D printed “ghost gun”, then failed to ditch it and carried it across state lines? He couldn’t find a garbage can to pitch it in over 24 hours later?

3. People say Luigi couldn’t be the adjuster because of the height/build difference between him and the security footage of Brian Thompsons shooting. I find this less convincing as the footage is extremely unclear. But I will say at the very least, nothing in that footage has been brought to my attention that supports Luigi being the shooter. No shill pundit or sweaty former prosecutor desperate for their 15 minutes has got on TV and said “See, here’s what the prosecution is going to point to to build their case.”

It would seem to me, that Luigi is a troubled young rich kid who wrote some critical, if meandering, things about his frustrations with US Healthcare, got accused by a McDonalds employee who was financially incentivized to see a suspect, had evidence planted by some cops hoping to catch this rising folk hero before anyone else got any ideas, and then got railroaded by the most corrupt DOJ since the Gilded Age.

First, I’m going to heavily qualify this statement. Like, a lot. I have never served in any military capacity and I’m repeating something a member of the Canadian military told me, which could easily be wrong for 20 reasons.

National Guardsman are similar to our “reservists” and are not paid when inactive. If additional troops who were already trained but not active, we’re then activated, that would account for additional costs.

So yeah, massive grain of salt but you asked and someone gave me a reasonable answer that seemed to fit. I have done no fact checking, though.

He self-identifies as Conservative, when talking to me, which is 99% of the time he spends discussing politics.

I dunno. Feels like we lost the thread here. If it makes you guys happy, sure. By “leans Conservative” I actually meant “center-right Liberal”. Everyone cool with that?

That’s bullshit. My friend is a wonderful person who hasn’t actually voted for a Conservative government in over a decade. “Sheer was a joke. Pollievre is a clown.” Are his exact words. He wants more military spending for the Canadian forces where he served for years, and he’s highly skeptical of higher taxes, convinced that rich people will always find a way to weasel out. He’s against minimum wage hikes because “the corporations will just raise prices”. Because of these reasons, he identifies as Conservative, albeit one who votes Liberal because the CPC is a joke. He’s right of me but thats where most people are.

This is a man who, is bi himself and strongly supports LGBTQ rights, and went no contact with his own brother because his coke-addled brother wouldn’t stop spouting racist shit.

Stop with bullshit “everyone to my right is Nazi” stuff. You don’t know anything and it helps no one.

I had a good friend who isn’t usually very politically engaged (we’re Canadian and he leans Conservative) text me this story. Along with the following:

“Wow. I know Trump gets away with a lot of shit, you told me ICE is arresting innocent people every day, but this shit is atrocious. No way conservatives let this slide…”

Oh sweet summer child…

That woman, is a dangerous gang member? THAT woman? And her screaming, terrified 18-year-old daughter who had the audacity to demand cops show a fucking warrant.

If you aren’t filled with rage at this point, you’re either evil, or painfully ignorant.

There’s a couple reasons -

1. It wasn’t so much “bombing Yemen” as it was, bombing a terrorist organization within Yemen’s borders. This is something every American administration has done for decades. That makes it poor political fodder, you can’t “one up” the competition with it.
2. Most Americans would agree that the Houthis, once it is explained to them who they are, need to be bombed. The actual action would be reprehensible to some, but acceptable to most. You can’t put pressure on an admin to change their tactics when they feel they have a plurality of support.
3. The sad and undeniable fact is that in American politics - American lives are simply more important than foreign ones. That’s not really unique to American culture, it’s not meant as a criticism, it’s just a sad reality. Bombing Yemen is pretty low risk for American lives - but sloppy OPSEC put American lives at huge risk so that’s where the focus is.

In a perfect world, the fact that America is committing violence in other nations and is not realistically reigned in by International Laws or Treaties would be a point worth getting upset about. But that fact is over 100 years old and has been successfully normalized. The idea of incompetent buffoons operating the Department of Defense like a bunch of frat boys trying to organize a kegger is marginally newer and more impactful on the national psyche.

I’ve been posting this in a couple places - but it’s not Vietnam, right? It’s Ireland and the Troubles. Only - on a scale that makes the Troubles look like a block party. And I say that aware that the Troubles was a decades long conflict that piled bodies sky-fucking-high and never truly healed. It wasn’t solved by a U2 song.

I don’t know a lot about America. I’ve only visited maybe a half dozen of your cities and maybe been on American soil maybe 10 times in my whole life. I’ll tell you what I do know, please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake:

I know you don’t have universal healthcare. I know you don’t have a specific carve out against hate speech or calls for genocide in your first amendment. I know you have no limit on money in politics. I know you have 2 year election cycles instead of laws that prevent campaigning for more than 12 weeks before an election. I know you have school shootings. I know you have laws restricting abortion. I know you don’t legally recognize the existence of Trans people, never mind their rights. I know we had legal gay marriage on the books 10 years before you did, and the way things are going we’ll have it another 10 years after you overturn Obergefell. I know your banking system sucks, putting profits before people, and couldn’t protect you from the 2008 crash as well as ours did because we have actual regulation. I know you don’t have the same environmental protections. I know you want people to assimilate and “become” American in a melting pot instead of honoring everyone’s right to embrace their history like our mosaic.

And I know you don’t allow your conquered territories like Puerto Rico and Guam to vote, so who gives a shit how liberal we are?

I like America, and Americans, fine. But you were right there, a short drive away if I wanted to live like you. I don’t. Why is it not a big deal that that choice might be taken from me? (edited this last line to not jump the gun. Not like fighting has started and the whole point of this was to show I wasn’t overreacting)

I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.

Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.

And most of those war crimes were in an overseas war where we just trying to impress the European powers so they’d stop treating us like the kid brother. Can you imagine how many disgusting atrocities we’d commit protecting our own soil? Plus, we look and sound pretty indistinguishable from a lot of Americans. A Canada/America war would make the Troubles look like a fucking block party. The only winner is Russia. The only result, bodies piled high.