oh god utah. Can’t wait to see all the mormons without front teeth in 20 years.

Sir! Fresh off the presses, water is wet!

Can my line show up in the press now too?

Bravery or suicidal?

She told the cops ahead of time what the plan was. Did she expect it to go some other way?

She could’ve moved up to mass, i’m positive if she posted online someone would have taken her in to help her get a leg up in a part of the nation that isn’t full of bigoted ignorant dumpy lovers, but she didn’t.

I can’t see Florida, land of the insane, to rule anything on her side. That leaves appellate court or the supreme court… and I don’t see those going her way either.

Yeah, i’m not that deep into gender politics. I was just talking about somebody I don’t know, have never spoken to, have never met, and i’ve been relying on OP’s news article as my source of truth for all information about her.

She made the choice to be where she is. Here’s hoping she has an actual plan and she’s not just victim #1 like everyone replying to me is implying.

If she was just using the restroom without sending out a press release ahead of time so that cops would be there this would almost certainly not have happened. I just don’t know what this is supposed to accomplish in florida, land of the batshit insane people, especially with everything else bombarding us in the news. I get and agree with the desire to change things back to sanity, but I also know that my opinion is worth about as much as anyone on here.

You know, it doesn’t hurt to ask me instead of insinuating shit.

This.

Sorry, have two in laws living with me who have been applying for jobs for 14 months without success. If they can’t get jobs here in boston, i’m guessing florida is even worse.

Has nothing to do with her in particular, just the state of how fucked this nation is. Just like what I said originally.

Sorry, have two in laws living with me who have been applying for jobs for 14 months without success. If they can’t get jobs here in boston, i’m guessing florida is even worse.

Has nothing to do with her in particular, just the state of how fucked this nation is. Just like what I said originally.

They were a nobody before, now they will be a champion of liberalism.

They probably went from nearly unemployable like the rest of us, to guaranteed a good job at a nonprofit or other company that is proudly pro trans rights. There’s no shortage out there.

They just have to survive the judicial system and the penal system, with all the free legal representation coming their way they have a shot at avoiding any jail time, and who knows how the appeals will go after florida can’t secure a settlement or guilty plea.

Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.

I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

They paid in cash per TFA

So do you expect self driving tech to override human action? or do you expect human action to override self driving tech?

I expect the human to override the system, not the other way around. Nobody claims to have a system that requires no human input, aside from limited and experimental implementations that are not road legal nationwide. I kind of expect human input to override the robot given the fear of robots making mistakes despite the humans behind them getting into them drunk and holding down the throttle until they turn motorcyclists into red mist. But that’s my assumption.

With the boca one specifically, the guy got in his car inebriated. That was the first mistake that caused the problem that should never have happened. If the car was truly self driving automated and had no user input, this wouldn’t have happened. It wouldn’t have gone nearly 2.5x the speed limit. It would have braked long in advance before hitting someone in the road.

I have a ninja 650. We all know the danger comes from things we cannot control, such as others. I’d trust an actually automated car over a human driver always, even with limited modern tech. The second the user gets an input though? zero trust.

FTFA:

Certain Tesla self-driving technologies are speed capped, but others are not. Simply pressing the accelerator will raise your speed in certain modes, and as we saw in the police filings from the Washington State case, pressing the accelerator also cancels emergency braking.

That’s how you would strike a motorcyclist at such extreme speed, simply press the accelerator and all other inputs are apparently overridden.

If the guy smashes the gas, just like in cruise control I would not expect the vehicle to stop itself.

The guy admitted to being intoxicted and held the gas down… what’s the self driving contribution to that?

Did I ask a terrible question, or do you just not like anything being objective about the issue? I’m so far over on the left side ideologically that you’d be hard pressed finding an issue that i’m conservative on. I don’t fit the dem mold though, i’m more of a bernie… though I am very critical in general. I don’t just take things at face value. Anywho…

Saying that the statistics aren’t great just lends credence to the fact that we can’t objectively determine how safe or unsafe anything is without good data.

Let’s get this out of the way: Felon Musk is a nazi asshole.

Anyway, It should be criminal to do these comparisons without showing human drivers statistics for reference. I’m so sick of articles that leave out hard data. Show me deaths per billion miles driven for tesla, competitors, and humans.

Then there’s shit like the boca raton crash, where they mention the car going 100 in a 45 and killing a motorcyclist, and then go on to say the only way to do that is to physically use the gas pedal and that it disables emergency breaking. Is it really a self driving car at that point when a user must actively engage to disable portions of the automation? If you take an action to override stopping, it’s not self driving. Stopping is a key function of how self driving tech self drives. It’s not like the car swerved to another lane and nailed someone, the driver literally did this.

Bottom line I look at the media around self driving tech as sensationalist. Danger drives clicks. Felon Musk is a nazi asshole, but self driving tech isn’t made by the guy. it’s made by engineers. I wouldn’t buy a tesla unless he has no stake in the business, but I do believe people are far more dangerous behind the wheel in basically all typical driving scenarios.

It’s because the wealthy run things, and the victim was wealthy.

Game, set and match.

cause meet effect

I can’t believe investors were OK with him selling twitter to another company he co-owns.

Sounds like a small claims court case or something. Abhorrent.

When was the last time you saw a “wall” erected on a freeway that was perfectly painted to mimic the current time of day, road, weather, etc. I’m not talking about for that example, i’m talking about in the real world.

The answer is never.

Yes, the optical sensors are fooled by an elaborate ruse that doesn’t exist in real world operating conditions on a highway.

I still argue that for most normal driving circumstances, it is massively safer than humans who malfunction constantly.

I will never, ever buy a tesla so long as felon musk has any ownership in it whatsoever. The guy is irredeemable. Still have way more faith in self driving tech overall (industry wide) than human drivers though. That’s the work of engineers, not an asshole.

It’s all about the whole dunning-kruger effect where most just know nothing despite thinking otherwise, right?