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  • I agree for the most part. But everything isn’t just a different political view.

    You’re literally posting this in an instance where lots of people actively deny the extent of Stalins crimes. Justifying it as “some countries miss the soviet, so he can’t have been that bad” as if the Soviet ended with Stalin and didn’t continue on for decades after.

    I don’t know about you. But that is as far away from an echo chamber I think you can get.









  • I know they can manufacture them. They still import from Iran. The demand far exceeds the supply.

    and europeen refused to be clear that the 12 days war was started by the usa is Israel.

    What are you talking about? Everyone in Europe is saying that USA and Israel started the war.

    “Ukraine truly wants to see a free Iran that will not cooperate with Russia or destabilize the Middle East, Europe, and the world. I am grateful to the Crown Prince for his clear assurances of support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Our teams will remain in communication,” Zelensky said.

    That’s what he said after the meeting. I doubt the US and Israel will stop their war with Iran until they get everything they want or until there’s no Iran left. Not unless someone makes them. And Europe is not going to start a war with the US over Iran.

    The purpose of Zelenaky meeting with him, an opposition leader, was to try and ensure their support of Russia would sieze if he is selected as the new leader. So to say there’s zero advantage is just not true. Though we could probably argue and speculate what level of advantage it would generate, it is an easy risk free move to make with zero disadvantage.




  • Not at all. You’re just actively choosing to dismiss it because you want to dismiss it. I’m not going to argue with someone that desperately want to rewrite history.

    The Famine in Ukraine didn’t kill millions because of environmental factors. It’s because their produce was confiscated, and they were left to die.

    I’m sure to have an excuse for the kazaks whose livestock was confiscated too, leading to their Famine.

    It’s not just deportations that were bad. The active genocide was worse.

    I don’t know if you remember checnya. But I do.




  • Ukraine probably have their own goals in mind. Making sure Iran can’t export sheheds is good for them. Showing themselves as capable and offering help is a good way to also recieve help. I don’t think it’s about vengeance. It’s about practicality.

    Yeah I agree, the war in Iran benefits Russia. As Oil prices go up, and Russia sells. That only benefits them.

    I doubt there’s anything Ukraine and Europe can do in talks with Iran. Iran are the ones being attacked. What is there to say? It’s also not our mess. Europe is not particularly impressed by this attack. Morals aside. It’s clumsy, there’s no plan, there’s no contingency, the one obvious predictable counter-move by Iran was somehow not predicted!? And on top of it all, Israel is bombing water desalination plants which I think is an obvious war crime. Plain and simple.

    You can’t bomb a nation into submission. We would never give up. So why would they?

    Why would I call for bombings in China? because China support more substantially the Russian invasion

    Ok, I still don’t think China should be bombed. I don’t even think Iran should have been bombed.

    I think there should be consequences enforced by Europe since it’s a war in our backyard. But not bombings.



  • “Holodomor” is a Ukrainian word. One they used to describe the Famine in Ukraine. I do not think it’s unfair, to separate their Famine, with the one Kazakhs had. Kazakhs were by large nomadic. By siezing their livestock for collectivisation, they all but sentenced them to death by starvation.

    They were two completely different people, living two completely different lives. Affected by the same policy which was the major contribution to the famines.

    They were two separate people, living in two very different places. If your only criticism is that you think “Holodomor” should encompass both. I’ll gladly change it it “Ukraine famine”

    What kolaks burned in protest and sabotage was what was going to be taken from them anyhow. So rather than giving it up, they destroyed it. It would not have changed much of the outcome, because they wouldn’t have had it anyway.

    I strongly disagree that my framing ignores the diplomatic reality.

    non aggression between nazi germany and USSR. But I don’t think Poland would agree with the notion of “non aggression”

    USSR absolutely did not know they would face the Nazi regime “alone”. Stalin was literally speechless when the Germans went into USSR. They didn’t carve up Poland to “secure Ukraine” or “buy more time” they did it to seize more land. It having the side effect of slowing down Nazis entry into USSR is nothing but coincidental. And neither excuses the execution of over 100 thousand poles.

    As of later, why would Poland allow the red army to go anywhere in Poland? “Hey guys, we’re not gonna kill you this time, we promise, we just want to go to germany”. Can you honestly even remotely blame them for not allowing entry? Why would they believe anything nazis or USSR said?

    I’m not reshaping anything. Both the Ukrainian Famine and the Kazakh Famine was deliberate to weaken them while strengthening Moscow. If events such as droughts occur. You don’t go ahead and sieze your initial quota to leave the population with nothing. That is purposefully creating a genocide by proxy of famine.

    USSR and later Russia have a history of systematically weakening and eliminating ethnic minorities while strengthening the ethnic Russians, a history which is continuing to the present day.