• ZephyrXero@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    This whole campaign is being funded by a Russian oligarch and a crypto bro. The petition gatherers they’ve paid are misconstruing the thing or are just completely uniformed as to what they’re actually pushing.

    https://youtu.be/9eWshgz4rIQ

    The whole thing feels like a ruse to create a wedge issue that can damage the Dems in Oregon.

    But most anyone who’s actually looked at what the proposal actually says are against it regardless of political affiliation

  • Zomg@piefed.world
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    18 hours ago

    What’s wrong with population management through hunting deer and such?

    It’s my understanding that we do that for actual reasons…

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      Exactly, there is a bipartisan consensus that is is BAD and neither side likes it.

      Someone seems to be pushing it to use as political ammo.

    • IP28 also establishes a Humane Transition Fund to provide grants helping with food assistance, replacement of lost income, job retraining, and aid in conservation and rewilding efforts

      I assume the idea is to replace hunting with a more natural means of population control

      Edit: here’s their answer on that actually:

      Would IP28 affect the ODFW and its conservation efforts?

      The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) is responsible for helping with Oregon’s wildlife conservation efforts. According to their 2021-2023 Budget Summary, they receive $185 million from Hunter/Angler license and tag sales, which is 39% of their total revenue. While IP28 would remove this source of revenue, IP28 would also make it illegal for the ODFW to spend money on the killing and breeding of animals. This means that the $203 million it currently spends on fisheries and hatcheries, plus a portion of the $70 million it spends on managing hunting seasons, would have to be reallocated. Considering the ODFW spends only $8 million (just 2% of it’s budget) specifically on Wildlife Conservation, the ODFW does not need to sell Hunter/Angler licenses in order to continue with its conservation efforts. Regardless, any organization involved with killing animals should not be responsible for protecting animals. We would consider it unjustified if we decided to kill human animals in the name of environmental protection, and it is just as unjustified to kill non-human animals in the name of conservation.

      https://www.yesonip28.org/about

  • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
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    This will absolutely fail, if its not outright killed by the state government using whatever means necessary. Outside Portland Hunting and Fishing is essentially the only hobby that doesn’t involve eventually spilling oil in the woods.

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    19 hours ago

    Activities such as lawful hunting, fishing, wildlife management, scientific or agricultural research, pest control and slaughtering livestock are exempt from animal cruelty laws.

    Initiative Petition 28 aims to remove those exemptions.

    Not a hunter or fisherman myself but this is nuts. The boldest thing though is:

    Pest control

    Think of the children mosquitoes!

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    Have they thought about banning predation at all levels of the food web in their ecosystem? Then bears and salmon can finally live in harmony.

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      Did you read the article? Like, everyone is against this. The governor is against this. I live in Oregon and I promise you this entire thing is absurd.

      In fact, it’s so absurd that it seems more likely that this is a bizarre false flag by the Republicans to discredit “the liberals”. Evidence for this includes Republican leaders already publicly claiming this is an attack on Oregon’s economy by “[Oregon governor Tina] Kotek’s allies” (unspecified)… Despite Kotek herself being vocally against this.

      Edit: and it’s frustrating how effective it is, just looking at the comments in this thread. No real questioning about the legitimacy of what’s happening, just taking the article title at face value despite it being extremely misleading.

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      Oregon has always been red. It was literally founded as a “whites only” ethnostate.

      Only Portland is blue.

      (That’s meant only to be historical context, not commentary about this apparently bullshit hunting ban.)