• Murse@slrpnk.net
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    17 hours ago

    Multiple things can be true at once. He was a victim of blackmail because he was guilty of whatever the fuck was going on at pedo island.

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      17 hours ago

      I think a lot of people were pressured into participating at pedo Island because of existing blackmail, which generated more powerful blackmail. Using blackmail leverage to create more blackmail leverage is like blackmail 101.

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        15 hours ago

        Correct - but he should still be held accountable for things like fucking children even if he did so under the threat of some other embarrassing info going public.

        Blackmail only works when the one being blackmailed digs their own grave with a pattern of failing to do what they should do every step of the way.

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          13 hours ago

          Oh I never said he shouldn’t be held accountable. I’m just saying there was almost certainly a pipeline of small steps to being fully implicated. There were definitely people who got involved with Epstein because he was a power broker that had his fingers in a lot of pies, and by the time they were past the point of no return it was too late.

          Not saying that’s the case with Gates, but it’s important to recognize that part.

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      13 hours ago

      It does seem here like he’s openly admitting he had multiple affairs, isn’t particularly trying to hide it

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        6 hours ago

        He is, and generally something like an affair demands only social and civil repercussions; that it happened on Epstein island tells me the affairs he had were with sex slaves (who are not allowed the right to consent, so “affairs” in this case is short for “people he raped”) - who were likely children given what that island is known for. Admitting to it is not the same as being held accountable for it. Rape, especially child rape, demands criminal justice.