People are shitting on Gates and that’s appropriate and all, but the subtext here is really important. Epstein and his circle went after powerful people through blackmail and the influence extends really far. And there’s a person sitting at the head of the White House who’s name appears a fuckton of times in the Epstein files. The whole thing needs to be blown wide open and there’s obviously a lot of people in powerful positions who don’t want that to happen because things about them will get out.
Yesterday’s NYT expose of the Epstein panic in the White House last summer mentions that the name Mar-a-Lago appears in the Epstein files over 38,000 times.
That’s a hell of a lot of orange smoke for a tiny little nothing-to-see-here fire.
We already know the subtext though. That’s the thing the entire pizza gate saga was essentially a fake version of what’s been happening since at least the 1970s with Israeli intelligence.
Epstein, like his many bosses and colleagues still operating, helped traffic children, matched powerful people with children (sometimes adults), all to ensure their absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.
If you’re not with them, you’re against them, so they’ll either make sure you stay with them, or they’ll just kill you (JFK).
absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.
I did address that. Or, in other words, the capital class which acts as a single distinct entity in most things, and uses tactics like this to ensure a lack of in-fighting.
So Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed politicians to ensure their absolute loyalty to the “capitalist class” which is also in charge of mossad and the cia? How do you explain the existence of other capitalist states whose politicians don’t diddle kids? Or do you think they all do it secretly?
Don’t you think that a salary upwards of $10000/mo plus various lucrative side-hustles and job opportunities from lobbyism and political favors, paired with the never ending nationalist propaganda about how capitalism and liberal democracy are the ideal and most fair way to organize humanity, is enough to ensure these people’s loyalty?
The vagueness of your “critique” of capitalism and your talk about a coordinated group of people pulling the strings of the rulers of society and secret services, intentionally or not, comes off kind of antisemitic and incoherent in my opinion. (And no, I am not a Zionist or in any way foster a single positive opinion about the existence of the state of israel.)
Edit: I don’t disagree with anything that “Albbi”, the person you responded to, said in their comment though.
How do you explain the existence of other capitalist states whose politicians don’t diddle kids?
Name a single one, I’ll give you an Epstein linked politician in it.
Don’t you think that a salary upwards of $10000/mo plus various lucrative side-hustles and job opportunities from lobbyism and political favors, paired with the never ending nationalist propaganda about how capitalism and liberal democracy are the ideal and most fair way to organize humanity, is enough to ensure these people’s loyalty?
I don’t think you’ve ever met anyone in business or politics. But specifically I was talking about people like Mamdani or Bernie, who essentially have no power and will never have any power that threatens capital. They will either eventually be approached, blackmailed, and forced to reverse course or killed if they ever gain actual traction.
The vagueness of your “critique” of capitalism and your talk about a coordinated group of people pulling the strings of the rulers of society and secret services, intentionally or not, comes off kind of antisemitic and incoherent in my opinion. (And no, I am not a Zionist or in any way foster a single positive opinion about the existence of the state of israel.)
If you believe anything I’ve said is antisemitic, you are unironically antisemitic.
I don’t think a guy like Friedrich Merz or someone like Angela Merkel or Jaques Chirac or even Barrack Obama or whatever did politics in favor of capital because they were blackmailed by a shadowy cabal of global elites with proof of their heinous sex crimes.
Doing politics in favor of capital simply comes with the territory of being the leader of a capitalist state. Many of these politicians also either are part of or grew up within the capitalist class and are simply serving their own material and ideological interests.
I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say about Bernie Sanders and Zohran Mamdani either, as if the people on the Epstein list were all socialist politicians that got a little too powerful and would have paved the way for workers rights and equality were it not for the evil global cabal that enticed them to diddle kids and then blackmailed them to do a 180 on their otherwise honest and humanitarian views.
I don’t think it really matters much for the existence of capitalism that some rich people like to spend their time raping people. If so and since you’re saying this has been happening since around the 60s, how do you explain the existence of capitalism before 1939? Before 1914? And even before that? Is it all built on mfers getting blackmailed for diddling kids or are there maybe other incentives for people in power to enable the unfethered accumulation of capital?
There is nothing to indicate that Bill Gates isn’t telling the truth. Maybe not the whole truth. But no doubt Epsteins main business was to create compromats.
People are shitting on Gates and that’s appropriate and all, but the subtext here is really important. Epstein and his circle went after powerful people through blackmail and the influence extends really far. And there’s a person sitting at the head of the White House who’s name appears a fuckton of times in the Epstein files. The whole thing needs to be blown wide open and there’s obviously a lot of people in powerful positions who don’t want that to happen because things about them will get out.
Yesterday’s NYT expose of the Epstein panic in the White House last summer mentions that the name Mar-a-Lago appears in the Epstein files over 38,000 times.
That’s a hell of a lot of orange smoke for a tiny little nothing-to-see-here fire.
We already know the subtext though. That’s the thing the entire pizza gate saga was essentially a fake version of what’s been happening since at least the 1970s with Israeli intelligence.
Epstein, like his many bosses and colleagues still operating, helped traffic children, matched powerful people with children (sometimes adults), all to ensure their absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.
If you’re not with them, you’re against them, so they’ll either make sure you stay with them, or they’ll just kill you (JFK).
I’m willing to bet pizzagate was also real, and ALL of them are degenerates.
Qanon was a diversion to deflect the Trump Epstein network’s activities onto everyone else, particularly political opponents.
The stories I’ve read of Donald Ewen Cameron blackmailing people in mk ultra are similar.
And who is “they” in your opinion? Don’t be so secretive.
What’s in a name? Would an Illuminati by any other name not smell as creep?
Can you rephrase that? I don’t understand
I did address that. Or, in other words, the capital class which acts as a single distinct entity in most things, and uses tactics like this to ensure a lack of in-fighting.
So Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed politicians to ensure their absolute loyalty to the “capitalist class” which is also in charge of mossad and the cia? How do you explain the existence of other capitalist states whose politicians don’t diddle kids? Or do you think they all do it secretly?
Don’t you think that a salary upwards of $10000/mo plus various lucrative side-hustles and job opportunities from lobbyism and political favors, paired with the never ending nationalist propaganda about how capitalism and liberal democracy are the ideal and most fair way to organize humanity, is enough to ensure these people’s loyalty?
The vagueness of your “critique” of capitalism and your talk about a coordinated group of people pulling the strings of the rulers of society and secret services, intentionally or not, comes off kind of antisemitic and incoherent in my opinion. (And no, I am not a Zionist or in any way foster a single positive opinion about the existence of the state of israel.)
Edit: I don’t disagree with anything that “Albbi”, the person you responded to, said in their comment though.
Name a single one, I’ll give you an Epstein linked politician in it.
I don’t think you’ve ever met anyone in business or politics. But specifically I was talking about people like Mamdani or Bernie, who essentially have no power and will never have any power that threatens capital. They will either eventually be approached, blackmailed, and forced to reverse course or killed if they ever gain actual traction.
If you believe anything I’ve said is antisemitic, you are unironically antisemitic.
I don’t think a guy like Friedrich Merz or someone like Angela Merkel or Jaques Chirac or even Barrack Obama or whatever did politics in favor of capital because they were blackmailed by a shadowy cabal of global elites with proof of their heinous sex crimes. Doing politics in favor of capital simply comes with the territory of being the leader of a capitalist state. Many of these politicians also either are part of or grew up within the capitalist class and are simply serving their own material and ideological interests.
I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say about Bernie Sanders and Zohran Mamdani either, as if the people on the Epstein list were all socialist politicians that got a little too powerful and would have paved the way for workers rights and equality were it not for the evil global cabal that enticed them to diddle kids and then blackmailed them to do a 180 on their otherwise honest and humanitarian views.
I don’t think it really matters much for the existence of capitalism that some rich people like to spend their time raping people. If so and since you’re saying this has been happening since around the 60s, how do you explain the existence of capitalism before 1939? Before 1914? And even before that? Is it all built on mfers getting blackmailed for diddling kids or are there maybe other incentives for people in power to enable the unfethered accumulation of capital?
That’s if you believe Gates is telling the truth and not simply covering his ass.
There is nothing to indicate that Bill Gates isn’t telling the truth. Maybe not the whole truth. But no doubt Epsteins main business was to create compromats.
Why not both?
Hard to lie and tell the truth at the same time.
The best lies are rooted in truth
The thing that stands out though is none of the women abused by Epstein ever mentioned Gates and he is a well known figure
Sorry that’s a fairly simple view of reality.
People convince others of fallacies without lying all the time.
You can absolutely tell the truth while presenting a fiction.
The only question here, which we will likely never know, is the extent to which this testimony is an objective, balanced recount of the circumstances.