• 7101334@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    [citation needed], don’t forget to include the Civil War in the US’s figures. Let’s also go “per capita” to make it fair.

    It wasn’t “about a fact”, it was about your framing of the fact. “Yeah China did this 30 fucking years ago while America has never stopped doing this over the last 30 years, these two entities are equivalent!” It’s less bad when white people do it, right?

    I’m not pro-CCP for the record. I’m just realistic about my criticisms, like their restrictive social measures. There is zero doubt they are vastly less of an international menace than the United States.

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      No citation needed, it is common knowledge how many people died not only from their violent revolution but also policies that led to the great famine. To think all those people died fighting “fascists” just to turn around and embrace fascism is a very sad story.

      China is the fourth largest producer of arms. They are actively selling weapons to war torn nations. You are clearly carrying water here.

      The US is by far the most destructive nation in the history of the world. No debate from me here.

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      4 days ago

      Don’t bother, he likes to eat his propaganda by the spoonful. China kills 100000000000000000000000000x 10*9 yogurts every minute, etc. Every accusation is an admission of guilt, what they blame China is exactly what the USA has done, still does, and will do

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              3 days ago

              All I see is their sacrifice paying up, their standards of living increasing and they haven’t invaded any country on almost half a century

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                3 days ago

                I really appreciate how they raised close to a billion people out of extreme poverty giving them access to clean water and electricity. It was a tremendous achievement.

                I can definitely see the good and the bad.

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                  I’m not saying there is no bad, I am not stupid. But the information we receive in the west is so one sided that I have to question everything they say about China. For example, the “social credit” is something that doesn’t exist in China, yet we saw endless news articles in the west about it, made me question what else are they lying about, as it turns out, a lot