I’ve jumped. My old Win10 PC doesn’t have a modern enough CPU to support Windows11, and after having seen what MS are doing with it I wasn’t interested in upgrading anyway. I used to use Ubuntu back in my younger days at school so I’m not completely alien to Linux, but I’d turned my back on it in favour of Microsoft productivity suites after moving into the full time work arena. Once support ended for Win10 I flattened my hard disks and made the move.
While I do have Ubuntu/Debian experience, I ultimately decided against going down that path because I’m not too happy with the recent decisions Canonical has made. Plus, I’m a gamer deep down and was interested to see what gaming on Linux looks like nowadays (my last attempt was a half-assed install of Left4Dead 2 when Valve were just figuring things out), so I ultimately settled on CachyOS. Going from Ubuntu and Gnome through 10 years of Windows to land at Arch and KDE has been one hell of a journey and I’m surprised by how little I know in this environment. It is NOT like riding a bike, a few years away really feels like learning from scratch again!
Things are going well though. I’m running Steam/Heroic with a bunch of games installed (Proton 😍), I’m back with LibreOffice and GIMP (though I never really stopped using GIMP), and I’m learning a bunch of new terminology and apps. It doesn’t matter that because of forced obsolescence there’s no way back to MS, I’m only interested in going forward anyway.
Join us. It’s not as scary as you think.
Reading this makes me happy.
God i wish. And most everyone here could install a new operating system in about 20 minutes. But nobody else is going to because the learning curve for a regular user to install an os is basically perpendicular. Even if they had a linux installer already on a flash drive.
Oh just boot into the bios and find the option to boot for a flash drive and then boom installed.
Which requires a user to know, What a bios is
What booting means
What boot options mean
What the model of their flash drive is
What button on their keyboard they need to press to get to the bios
What secure boot is
Where they need to go to turn off secure boot
How and where to back up their important files
What a disk partition is
How to reverse the changes made to the bios so that it doesn’t boot to usb by default.
And that’s assuming they know why they want a different OS, why they care and that they know about Linux in the first place.
Most people dont and never will. All you can do is install Linux for the ones you like the most and say a prayer to your favorite deity for the rest.
He touches on my major issue with all these companies, data mining without compensating the people that created that data. I have to pay for the operating system, get served ads, AND you get to make extra money off my information too? This kind of shenanigans would be tolerable with a free OS, or maybe one that compensated you like brave browser. The blatant fleecing of the consumer here is sickening. I’m glad data mining your screenshots is the last straw for people.
Too bad he didn’t touch the real issue with Linux for most people: lack of their industry favorite proprietary software.
If Linux suddenly started gaining traction on a bigger scale, Microsoft would make a user-facing proprietary distro and those bastards would still flock to it.
You clearly are just talking because you have a mouth. Proton/Wine has just reached 15k game playable. And they are currently porting around 1000 games per month. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/steam-deck-hits-15000-games-rated-playable-and-verified/
What games? Games with Anti-cheat WORK, its the companies that dont allow players to play them on Linux.
I think there are two major hurdles keeping Linux adoption back (besides the obvious installation bit). The first is that our backwards compatibility is terrible. It is easier to get old versions of Windows software to run in Wine than it is to get some old Linux software to run natively.
If something like Photoshop did finally release a Linux version, even if they only did one release to make 2% of people happy, it likely wouldn’t be able to run natively after 5 years.
The second is a good graphical toolkit. Yes, GTK and Qt exist, but neither are as simple as WinForms or SwiftUI/Aqua.
To allow modern windows to run legacy applications a lot of caution is given to updating libraries or fully new ones are given while keeping the older ones. Also static builds are more common on Windows, or come bundled with a copy of the required libraries as .dll files.
- Let’s say an application requires
libexample1. It works, the library is available too. - Eventually the application gets abandoned, but still works.
- But eventually a
libexample2gets released that drastically changes how the library works. The program doesn’t work on this version. The older release of the library then get’s abandoned. - Distributions now start removing the package from the repositories as the older library is slowly requiring no longer supported releases of its own dependency.
- Now application is borked
Aplication could have still worked if it came bundled with its own copy of libexample1 and of its dependencies, or was statically linked.
An example of this is Nero, a software kit for managing CD/DVD disc media. They made a build of some of their tools for Linux, meant to run on Debian 7. This builds were an experiment and got abandoned because of the very few users it had. Yet, these tools still work perfectly fine on Debian 12 despite being based on ancient libraries because it bundles all its requirements as a copy in its own proprietary blob.
I talked about caution on updating libraries on Windows. You can find many deprecated methods in any native Windows library that will likely never be removed from the library binaries, as many applications require it. The new, better and more feature rich method is given a different name instead, and is pointed out in the documentation for the older method.
Projects like FUSE are very nice for this, where an AppImave bundle of prebuilt binaries is given and can potencially not only be ran everywhere that can run FUSE but also in the future too.
Isn’t this what Flatpaks are doing?
Flatpak is definitely a possible solution. We will see how it will be managed in the future
- Let’s say an application requires





