SlAvA UkrAnI!

    • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      5 days ago

      If Russia is clearly only after the Donbass, why did it try to quickly force an end to the war before thousands of people died and a bunch of infrastructure was destroyed? Truly a conundrum.

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          No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. “Trade it for the Donbas” what are you nine?

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            My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn’t have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn’t really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia’s war of conquest.

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              This is you deciding what you want to be true in the face of all evidence to the contrary to preserve the very simplistic good guys/bad guys narrative you prefer.

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      They didn’t seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.

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            1. Even when you routinely bomb civilians?
            2. In your logic there’s nothing that can disapprove your position. Good luck Mr. Gorsky.
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              Even when you routinely bomb civilians?

              ?? Even amnesty has noted that Russia is the ones to make civilian escape corridors from areas under siege, while Ukraine shells them.

              What western propaganda does to an MF. Get out of the echo chamber.

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                I think I’ve discovered a nest of illiteracy and poor comprehension skills. Amazing.

                To date, thousands of people have been living under unlawful bombardment, while millions of people have been forcibly displaced over the course of two weeks of conflict in Ukraine. Russian forces’ assault on civilian populations and wanton destruction of the infrastructure of daily life violate the Geneva Conventions and international human rights law and must cease.

                Ukrainian authorities have requested that the routes should allow civilians from heavily bombed Mariupol, Enerhodar, Sumy, Izyum and Volnovakha to escape, and for residents of several towns close to Kyiv – including Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel – to reach the capital. Testimonies that Amnesty International have collected to date from civilians in several of these locations indicate they were prevented from leaving by continuous Russian shelling.

                https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/ukraine-humanitarian-corridors-for-civilians-fleeing-russian-attacks-must-provide-safety-new-testimonies/

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                fuelled by the inflow of foreign fighters and weapons from the Russian Federation, accounts for the majority of violations of the right to life in Ukraine over the last two years

                On April 12th 2014, a Russian citizen and FSB undercover officer Igor Strelkov led a group of Russian soldiers to take over Slov’yansk. Before that he was participating in annexation of Crimea which also leg to killings and torture of Ukrainian and Crimean tatar civilians and activists. He was later supported by regular Russian troops.

                Since 2022 Russian aggression destroyed hundreds of cities and towns, including but not limited to Bakhmut, Mariupol, Avdiivka, Vuhledar, Soledar, Popasna. They forced mobilisation of local civilians which lead to death of est. 20-25 thousands of forcefully mobilized civilians. How about morning them and not a fantasy of a report you can’t comprehend starting from the opening.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  I’m aware that the UN report tries to blame Russia for Kiev killing civilians and separatists, but it’s still nice to see them admit that Kiev was massacring civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk. The west coup’d the democratically elected president, and installed a Banderite government. It’s no surprise that they’d be seceded from and that this gov would then try to force these same people they’ve ethnically repressed back into Ukraine.