You know the answer. Muh evil gommunism CCP Stalinist 10000000000000000000000 killed all at once, fucking tankie redfash complaining about genocide this and genocide that shut up and vote harder already”. Something like that. US election season is coming around so it’ll only get worse and more annoying
You know fine well what it is, an authoritarian state with a great deal of control over the people living under it. You can argue that this authoritarianism is justifiable because it’s the best way to bring about communism, but it’s still auth left. Heck, we currently live under an extremely authoritarian right wing system, so it could be less authoritarian than the current system but still remain authoritarian in the full balance considering alternatives, and thus auth left.
What is a “non-authoritarian” state? You didn’t answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What “alternatives” exist?
My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.
What is “auth left?” Any leftist that supports the use of a socialist state?
You know the answer. Muh evil gommunism CCP Stalinist 10000000000000000000000 killed all at once, fucking tankie redfash complaining about genocide this and genocide that shut up and vote harder already”. Something like that. US election season is coming around so it’ll only get worse and more annoying
Oh yea, they’ll pretend we all disappear after election day after we’ve ruined the cycle or whatever.
You know fine well what it is, an authoritarian state with a great deal of control over the people living under it. You can argue that this authoritarianism is justifiable because it’s the best way to bring about communism, but it’s still auth left. Heck, we currently live under an extremely authoritarian right wing system, so it could be less authoritarian than the current system but still remain authoritarian in the full balance considering alternatives, and thus auth left.
I hope this helps clear things up for you.
What is a “non-authoritarian” state? You didn’t answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What “alternatives” exist?
My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.
Okay, great, so we’re all in agreement here, Marxism-Leninism is auth left. That’s the only point I care to discuss here.
Again, you never clarified, do you mean anything with a state is “auth?”