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        The phrase is “two sides of the same coin”. Meaning exactly what you are saying. That they are both the capitalist party. As opposed to another proverbial coin, that of the socialists, anarchists, Monarchist, etc.

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          Can’t you guys get neologisms and irony? I KNOW what is the original idiom. HOWEVER, I’m deliberately changing it to mean there isn’t even a simulacrum of difference between Democrats and Republicans. Ah, the eternal marvel of the English language: its breathtaking inability to stray from a pre-written script. No wonder it’s the language of contracts, with every clause so exquisitely, flawlessly delineated. Naturally, people then start behaving as if they’re perpetually executing contracts with one another, forever in hot pursuit of pecuniary advantage. And from that, of course, sprang Common Law, Capitalism, and Imperialism - what a coincidence. It’s just so delightfully easy to build colonies and murder on an industrial scale when the target is nothing more than a number. Precisely because they can’t think beyond greed and individualism, they end up so utterly, pathetically lost the moment they set foot in collectivist countries.

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            HOWEVER, I’m deliberately changing it to mean there isn’t even a simulacrum of difference between Democrats and Republicans

            I will grant you that both parties serve monied interests and share a lot of the same agenda. However, one party has been working for generations to roll back rights for women, POC, LGBTQIA+ to the 1950s.

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              The other transforms these societal demands in woke-liberalism, erasing the class struggle component of feminism, anti-lgbtphobia, anti-rascism. Rendering these fights too individualized and inconsequential.

              The Democrats don’t read Frantz Fanon and just skim through Angela Davis.

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                The other transforms these societal demands in woke-liberalism, erasing the class struggle component of feminism, anti-lgbtphobia, anti-rascism. Rendering these fights too individualized and inconsequential.

                Which is still not the same level of existential threat as forcing women to die of easily treatable obstetric issues or giving paramilitary thugs a budget bloated enough to be a top 13 military by funding carte blanche to execute or disappear protestors/POC/people with accents. Just because neither party is leftist (or ideal) does not mean they are the same.

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                  I would like to point out that Democrats consistently vote to increase the military budget, even when Trump is president. The most recent defense authorization act received 115 yes votes from Democrats to 94 no votes. On domestic issues you can make the argument that Democrats are a lesser evil, but when it comes to the empire the evil is bipartisan.

                  The main difference between Republicans and Democrats on foreign policy is that Democrats are better at it.

                  That’s not good. Iran was in really bad shape before the war started, another few years of the maximum pressure sanctions campaign and they’d eventually be dealing with enough civil unrest that justifying a “humanitarian intervention” would be possible. Instead of the US and Israel attacking on their own, NATO would have helped topple the government like they did in Libya.

                  Instead we got Republicans, who fumbled this so hard that Iran is winning and on the cusp of being a regional hegemon. The US empire is spiraling towards collapse at this rate and I am 100% here for it.