• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    not having a passport is about to mean you can’t vote

    Less than half of Americans have passports, and the ones who do are probably less likely to vote for republicans, they’re not going to require a US passport to vote.

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      ones who do are probably less likely to vote for republicans

      You said the quiet part out loud. Now learn about the loud part. Many people with passports didn’t get the “RealID” because the Passport always usurped it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safeguard_American_Voter_Eligibility_Act

      Edit: also this kind of “well, they won’t do it” is literally how every other fascist state has come into being, so I hope you enjoy your ignorance while it lasts. No, I don’t care about being nice. Time to grow up and stop with the whataboutism.

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        Many people with passports didn’t get the “RealID” because the Passport always usurped it.

        That’s a really good point. I have a “RealID”, which is just a way to say that I showed my passport at a DMV; but I also had to jump an extra hurdle to get that star.

        If you have a passport right now and don’t have your license with a star, you should do so.

        I obviously carry my driver’s license with me everywhere, but when doing things like air travel or interacting with federal processes, I bring my passport since, to me, the federal document supersedes the state document stating federal was checked.

        The dystopian scenario is that the federal side can revoke your document and, if you haven’t already been validated, you no longer can validate your federal status; and that federal status can be required to vote or travel.

        “Your passport is no longer valid because of <reason>” + You need a RealID to vote now = people who can’t vote because the government doesn’t like them and can invent a reason to invalidate a passport.

        I’d say have both: If you don’t have a passport, get one; if you don’t have a star on your state driver’s license or ID card, get one.

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        They won’t do it because it would disenfranchise their own voters and enfranchise the opposition. Are you not American and confused the parties?

        Edit: who is downvoting this? Are there people who think the republicans are going to rig the game against themselves?

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          Oh yeah, because it’s simply impossible for them to send ICE into blue states to “secure the elections”

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              You’re trolling, right? I can’t imagine why I’d have to explain this otherwise.

              Laws aren’t magical spells that change reality. If Republicans introduce a law saying “you must have a passport to vote”, people can still vote without a passport as long as nobody prevents them from doing so. Republicans can send ICE to polling stations in blue states to prevent people from voting without a passport.

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                    They already send ICE to do illegal things in states without open confrontation with the state’s own forces.

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      That’s a dangerously complacent view to hold, imo. There’s been a lot of “but that would never happen” happening lately.