• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    Yes the rest of the world needs to move around equipment and trailers. And they can do it without obscene trucks like this lol.

    What makes America so incompetent that they need a truck like this to do it?

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      18 hours ago

      Right so what do they use in the rest of the world to tow a skid steer + equipment or multi car good neck haulers or anything in that 30k+ lb payload? A gas 4 cyl Tacoma isn’t going to cut it. Neither will a V8 or V8 half ton truck. Do they just hire out tractors to do that kind of payload hauling? At work we somewhat regularly have to pull 20+k lbs so we have a big crew cab long box cummings to haul shit like that. Thing is a country mile long but it stays in its parking spot unless it’s getting a trailer hooked to it. If that seems excessive what vehicle do you recommend it gets replaced with? And don’t limit yourself to us mkt I’m genuinely curious !

      • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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        18 hours ago

        You’re listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you’re moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn’t do this, like… Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it’s got a clear line of sight.

        There’s a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we’re pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day’s work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.

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          18 hours ago

          Fair enough. There isn’t much more frustrating than going to the regional transfer station in my little 5 speed hatch back and throwing out a load of trash every bit as large as the 3/4 ton big boy toy next to me LOL. For what it’s worth at least in my state anything over 10k lbs has a significantly higher annual tax rate and their paying for their stupidity with 6$ a gal diesel rn. I just felt as though some were bashing trucks like these for existing as if there isn’t legitimate use cases for them, although if I had to hazzard a guess maybe 1/3 of units sold actually get used for anything a civic couldn’t fulfil and thsts probably being generous.

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            14 hours ago

            That’s fair. I think a lot of us have been conditioned to see these giant trucks as primarily daily drivers that best case scenario are occasionally an overpowered tool for an occasional hobby such as dragging around a camper once a year or grabbing some building supplies that people back in the day absolutely used a Tacoma or an suv for. If I see a pro grade pickup truck doing professional stuff I see it as a work tool, but if I see one in the parking lot of my way into work I see it as being driven by a tool.

            And yeah I’m just sick of being surrounded by large pro grade vehicles being used in contexts where they’re not needed and are impeding on everyone else’s space and visibility.

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        18 hours ago

        Anything too big for an SUV typically goes on a transport designed to haul large loads. Goose necks for pick up trucks are mostly a north american thing.

        The example you bring up also mentions how that truck is just for work, which isn’t really the problem. The problem is when the boss decides to drive that massive truck everywhere because his ego is so big he thinks hes needs the truck to go anywhere.

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          18 hours ago

          No kidding! Do contractors in your country own their own equipment or is that a more common thing in USA? We have equipment rental places in the USA but I feel like any business that uses machines regularly ends up owning them. Feel like it would be weird to own equipment and have no way of transporting it LOL

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            18 hours ago

            I’m in Canada so I’m very familiar with contractors owning goose necks and large trucks, it just doesn’t work like that everywhere in the world. The more remote/small the community, the more it makes sense for small owner/operators to be able to haul their own equipment.