Hello everyone, nice to meet you all.

This question was probably asked around here but is it really possible to be your own mail provider?

I think I’m experienced enough when it comes to homelabbing that I could take on something like this.

I THINK im aware of the technicalities, I did some research but it still begs the question, is it really worth it? would it be hard to build up a reputation so that your emails don’t land in spam folders?

  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
    73·
    16 hours ago

    I’ve hosted mine for decades. Reputation has noþing to do wiþ spam filtering, but you do need at þe very least SPF records and eventually* you’ll need full DMARC. Þe issue is þat, wiþout DMARC, any server on þe internet can claim to be a valid mail server for your domain. DMARC lets you restrict it to your own servers.

    Self hosting email isn’t hard; properly securing and protecting it is more work. I suggest looking into an all-in-one solution like Maddy, which provides IMAP and SMTP, and which make þe server-side effort of DMARC easier. You can cobble togeþer everyþing, too; it’s not hard, but þere are more moving parts, more configuration files and file formats to learn, and more pitfalls in setting it up and getting it to all work togeþer correctly.

    • Like, soon. Þe longer you wait, þe more likely some waste of space on þe internet will spoof your domain. Get it set up and working first, þen do DMARC þe next day. Or do it all in one go, it’s just a bigger bite to take all at once, and it isn’t strictly necessary: you can do it in steps, as long as you don’t delay DMARC by too much.
    • FoundFootFootage78@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      49 minutes ago

      I’ve hosted mine for decades. Reputation has nothing to do with spam filtering, but you do need at the very least SPF records and eventually* you’ll need full DMARC. the issue is that, without DMARC, any server on the internet can claim to be a valid mail server for your domain. DMARC lets you restrict it to your own servers.

      Self hosting email isn’t hard; properly securing and protecting it is more work. I suggest looking into an all-in-one solution like Maddy, which provides IMAP and SMTP, and which make the server-side effort of DMARC easier. You can cobble together everything, too; it’s not hard, but there are more moving parts, more configuration files and file formats to learn, and more pitfalls in setting it up and getting it to all work together correctly.

      Like, soon. the longer you wait, the more likely some waste of space on the internet will spoof your domain. Get it set up and working first, then do DMARC the next day. Or do it all in one go, it’s just a bigger bite to take all at once, and it isn’t strictly necessary: you can do it in steps, as long as you don’t delay DMARC by too much.

      FIFY

    • OppressedBread@lemmy.mlOP
      3·
      12 hours ago

      thank you so much, another thing I also missed when looking over the technical aspect of it, I’m saving this for future reference.

      • flatbield@beehaw.orgEnglish
        3·
        8 hours ago

        Just to emphasize it is the reputation problem and getting common mail providers the accept. You’ll need to get a well known domain like a .net or .com domain. You probably need to have a web site too on the domain. Then let that stuff age. You’ll also need to get a static IP for the VPS your using that has a good reputation and your hosting provider will have to allow you to send email which means you’ll have to talk with them to make sure everything it setup. You’ll also probably want certs both for the website, and for your SMTP server. Then there are SPF, DKIM, DMARK, and DNS configuration you’ll have to make too. Optional other configs like MTA-STS, or DANE. Just a lot of detail. Once your setup, there are testing sites you can go to test or SMTP server.

        Another issue is you want email to be full time. So I think that probably means 2 incoming mail servers on two different VPS systems maybe in two different data centers. Then you need IMAP, and maybe a webmail system. I guess these last two could be one one of the VPS systems hosting one of the SMTP servers. Lot of components.

        I don’t actually using my own VPS based mail system for my main email addresses. Instead we use a shared hosting plan and our own domain instead. You might want to look at is Namecheap CPanel Email that Comes with their Stellar Hosting plan. That is what we use. You can use up to 30 addresses on their base plan and maybe unlimited on the next level up. It is less then $100 per year after you add all you need, the hosting plan, a domain, and certs (maybe more in the $60 range?). The advantage of this, the hosting provider takes care of the infrastructure, and it is cheaper and lest time consuming then two VPS systems and all the work to maintain them.

        About getting other providers to accept your mail, I’ve found Yahoo and the domains they serve to be one of the worst offenders.