3.5% fee is now permanent even if fuel prices drop
also 0% of this fee will go towards the last-mile contract delivery drivers
A gutted USPS is that last mile driver in many areas.
The article says that USPS is also going to be starting to impose an 8% fuel surcharge.
These motherfuckers primarily use electric vehicles made by Rivian now. Fuel cost makes no difference for most of their deliveries.
I agree that the fee is bullshit, but I will add that they still use diesel trucks and aircraft for moving most of their freight. The electric vehicles are for those last few miles.
Although, they don’t pay fuel costs for their aircraft because they contract other companies to operate them.
Not in a majority of the country, they still use contract gig employees using personal vehicles in my town.
Absolutely 0% of that surcharge will go to them.
Given that you were wrong about your other assertion, I feel like we should be suspicious about this one.
You could be right but you’re just guessing.
I don’t know that I am wrong given what I was talking about. For last mile usage where these are relevant, Amazon has effectively abandoned all but electric themselves. Shoved costs off to contracting and gig workers using their own vehicles.
Unless you have actual numbers to cite from somewhere, there’s no telling really with how little Amazon actually breaks things down publicly. You have as much “proof” that I’m wrong as I do that I’m right… just anecdotal evidence.
I have never seen one of those vehicles except in a photo, and you seemed to abandon the claim rather than back it up with evidence.
So, that’s why I concluded it was wrong. You’re right, I don’t know it conclusively, but it seems like you can’t justify it either.
And I’m in a city with multiple Amazon distribution centers all around it. I haven’t seen an Amazon vehicle other than these Rivian ones in years.
That’s how anecdotal evidence works, it’s useless in reality, but it’s what we’ve experienced so it must be true, just from our small perspective.
This conversation did get me to do a basic search though for some hard numbers, albeit generic and round. Amazon placed the original order for 100,000 vehicles in 2020 and started receiving them in July 2022, with a goal for complete fulfillment and apparently a net-zero carbon goal by 2030. So if we take 100,000 vehicles in 8 years that comes to 12,500 per year. Let’s round down to 1,000 per month to account for initial production ramp and just math simplicity… That would give us about 44,000 as of March 2026, roughly. Granted… That’s presumably worldwide as well, at least internationally somewhat, I know they’re also used in at least Canada.
apparently a net-zero carbon goal by 2030
I also looked up a couple articles. The Rivian order of 100k is supposed to complete in 2030, but it says that the Amazon net-zero goal is for 2040, not 2030.
They have some of those, but definitely not primarily. Rivian’s stock price would be way higher if they supplied all of Amazon’s deliveries.
Unless you have a source for this claim.
They mostly still use regular gas rentals
I certainly don’t lose sleep not giving Amazon my business.
This seems like anti-competitive/monopoly behavior. Third-party sellers were already at a disadvantage selling on Amazon to the best of my knowledge.
M-M-MONEY
