This comment is getting reported. I’m not going to remove it, even though it’s a dumbass thing to say. Just take it apart with your own comment if you want, there’s no benefit to anyone if I silence it.
While my comment was mostly snark, the main point is that unlike a dog, these folks have agency in their decisions and approach to situations. Is the underlying management strategy of DHS/ICE wrong? Absolutely, but you don’t get to “I’m just following orders” your way through this as an ICE agent.
You can hate multiple things at once. I hate the individual agents and the administration. You cannot have a machine of oppression without both components; thus they are both worthy of hate.
“Just following orders” is not a valid defense for heinous acts. These people are evil. They are not only following inhumane orders, but going further. They’re not ordered to murder or rape people in custody but they do, because they want to. They’re grown ups making their own decisions. And those decisions are evil.
They are not mindless beasts. They know what they’re doing. They have no empathy. No respect for human life. They chose their paths. I’ll celebrate when that path leads to their demise.
OH NO, won’t some one think about the illegally occupying paramilitary groups safety and feelings? What if they pull a mussel sending someone to a concentration camp or slip while keeling on a neck? Wouldn’t that be horrific? Have some compassion for our boys in mask you monsters. Those illegals wont torture and lynch themselves without us. /s
There’s some nuance here though when they shoot themselves with their own firearms. That’s absolutely self inflicted “play stupid games” material. So I wouldn’t condemn people celebrating this particular type of accidents.
I would celebrate their admission of wrongdoing and willful rehabilitation to civil society. Alternatively, if the way they stop being a threat is that they happen to die, I will celebrate that decent people are safer as a result.
They are also an origination killing people and publicly celebrating the murders as an act of “counter terrorism”. You don’t sign up for the gestapo for good vibes.
I find the detention, shooting, and killing of innocent lives to be abhorrent. I ain’t going to cry for the people perpetrating this violence, and I wish violence upon them. If they die, so be it. 1 less person killing innocent lives.
I’m not celebrating any of this, to be very clear. It’s more of a grim satisfaction. We departed ages ago from whether it’s right or wrong. They’re fascists. And they’re grossly incompetent. I am not upset by news that those doing vast and needless harm to innocent people are victim of their own incompetence and negligence. I’ll admit to some schadenfreude and move on with my life.
We celebrated when Hitler died. When bad people die, it’s not a bad thing.
This is a moral roadblock that really irks me, because those in power certainly do not care who dies and who lives. If our “leaders” don’t care, why should we? It’s an inherent disadvantage to our chances at getting out of this mess and eventually doing everything we can to fix the planet and better the world for ALL of humanity.
And yes, it’s a slippery slope, I know. I would certainly prefer it to be different. But treehugging and flag-waving and chanting only do anything when your voice is acknowledged by the power structure.
E: I hope you aren’t scared off Lemmy by the opposition you have faced. Please don’t leave!
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This comment is getting reported. I’m not going to remove it, even though it’s a dumbass thing to say. Just take it apart with your own comment if you want, there’s no benefit to anyone if I silence it.
They are kidnapping, torturing, starving, raping, and killing innocent people.
Celebrating their harm/death is definitely the right call here.
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Comparing ICE agents to dogs isn’t helping your argument here…
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While my comment was mostly snark, the main point is that unlike a dog, these folks have agency in their decisions and approach to situations. Is the underlying management strategy of DHS/ICE wrong? Absolutely, but you don’t get to “I’m just following orders” your way through this as an ICE agent.
You can hate multiple things at once. I hate the individual agents and the administration. You cannot have a machine of oppression without both components; thus they are both worthy of hate.
“Just following orders” is not a valid defense for heinous acts. These people are evil. They are not only following inhumane orders, but going further. They’re not ordered to murder or rape people in custody but they do, because they want to. They’re grown ups making their own decisions. And those decisions are evil.
They are not mindless beasts. They know what they’re doing. They have no empathy. No respect for human life. They chose their paths. I’ll celebrate when that path leads to their demise.
Death to all Nazi scum.
OH NO, won’t some one think about the illegally occupying paramilitary groups safety and feelings? What if they pull a mussel sending someone to a concentration camp or slip while keeling on a neck? Wouldn’t that be horrific? Have some compassion for our boys in mask you monsters. Those illegals wont torture and lynch themselves without us. /s
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There’s some nuance here though when they shoot themselves with their own firearms. That’s absolutely self inflicted “play stupid games” material. So I wouldn’t condemn people celebrating this particular type of accidents.
I would celebrate their admission of wrongdoing and willful rehabilitation to civil society. Alternatively, if the way they stop being a threat is that they happen to die, I will celebrate that decent people are safer as a result.
They are also an origination killing people and publicly celebrating the murders as an act of “counter terrorism”. You don’t sign up for the gestapo for good vibes.
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You realize that “assholes” doesn’t even come close, right?
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Nope.
I save my empathy for people who actually have empathy of their own.
No. Not for these people, not even a tiny bit. I’ll sleep like a baby.
I find the detention, shooting, and killing of innocent lives to be abhorrent. I ain’t going to cry for the people perpetrating this violence, and I wish violence upon them. If they die, so be it. 1 less person killing innocent lives.
I’m not celebrating any of this, to be very clear. It’s more of a grim satisfaction. We departed ages ago from whether it’s right or wrong. They’re fascists. And they’re grossly incompetent. I am not upset by news that those doing vast and needless harm to innocent people are victim of their own incompetence and negligence. I’ll admit to some schadenfreude and move on with my life.
We celebrated when Hitler died. When bad people die, it’s not a bad thing.
This is a moral roadblock that really irks me, because those in power certainly do not care who dies and who lives. If our “leaders” don’t care, why should we? It’s an inherent disadvantage to our chances at getting out of this mess and eventually doing everything we can to fix the planet and better the world for ALL of humanity.
And yes, it’s a slippery slope, I know. I would certainly prefer it to be different. But treehugging and flag-waving and chanting only do anything when your voice is acknowledged by the power structure.
E: I hope you aren’t scared off Lemmy by the opposition you have faced. Please don’t leave!
You joined here about 5 hours ago…probably to spout your fascist-appeasing nonsense. Your opinion means ZERO
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These are murderous Nazis. your support is disgusting.
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You are equating these sadists to normal humans. They would shoot you if they had any excuse.
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Not all humans are equal. These assholes are guilty of crimes against humanity, so any one less of them by any means makes a better world.
Yes. Gleefully to every post you’ve made in this thread