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Agrajag@scribe.disroot.org to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months ago

Native Hawaiian man faces longer prison term for hate crime against white man

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Agrajag@scribe.disroot.org to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months ago
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A U.S. appeals court has ruled that a Native Hawaiian man convicted of a hate crime against a white man must be re-sentenced, potentially adding years to his prison term.
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    The simple answer is if you have a legitimate reason to beat someone’s ass don’t use any racial slurs while you’re doing it

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      I was putting an edit in before I saw your reply.

      But it’s just a stand in for when something like auntie/nephew/cousin/etc isn’t appropriate because the person isn’t native.

      It’s not a racial slur. It’s just what they use for someone that isn’t family.

      So it could 100% be coupled with insults at someone because of their race, but the word itself isn’t inherently racist.

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        It’s not a racial slur. It’s just what they use for someone that isn’t family.

        I mean it definitely can be. I mean, fuck, my best friend Kai (who is 100% Hawaiian, from a well known Hawaiian family) just about beat the shit out of another mutual friend (who is also Hawaiian) when he was was joking about his kid gonna catch diseases from the haole he was standing next to (me). Friend maybe meant it as a joke, but Kai sure af took it seriously enough to scrap.

        But I’ve also had another neighbor tell me “Oh you don’ worry nephew, you da’ good kinna haole”, and mean it.

        So it depends. It depends how you say it and what context.

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        I don’t know shit about Hawaii so I have no context on what the word means or how it’s used. But it seems like a Hawaiian court was convinced enough that it was a racial slur to upgrade this assault to a hate crime.

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          I don’t know shit about Hawaii

          My advice would be to ask more questions, and make less assumptions…

          Especially when you’re assuming a disadvantages minority population gets fair treatment in an American judicial system…

          https://www.acluhi.org/en/news/special-report-bias-against-native-hawaiians-hawaii-criminal-justice-system

          https://justicepolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/10-09_exs_disparatetreatmentofnativehawaiians_rd-ac.pdf

          https://ictnews.org/archive/addressing-the-native-hawaiian-inmate-issue

          https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/disparate-treatment-native-hawaiians-criminal-justice-system

          It’s not subtle, and it’s definitely not a secret, why are you trying to form opinions on co.plex societal topics off a handful of social media comments?

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          a Hawaiian court

          A Hawaiian court, or a court composed of haole / colonizers?

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            A court that conducted a trial with jurors who live in Hawaii and understand what “haole” means in the context of this incident.

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          If I was kicking the shit out of a Mexican in the USA and calling them an immigrant, it would be a hate crime.

          That analogy doesn’t really make sense…

          Here’s a real life example of what I heard witness multiple fights out there:

          Local vs local

          You’re a bitch ass cuz

          Local vs mainlander (regardless of race)

          You’re a bitch ass haole

          That’s it.

          It ain’t deeper than a substitute for a word that denotes familiar relations…

          You seem awfully desperate to find an example of white victimhood though

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