• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Sure, democratic socialism is center left, I’m talking about actual socialism, which gets promoted here quite a bit. Reddit was mostly dem socs and welfare state proponents, Lemmy takes it a bit further.

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      11 months ago

      Yes, but that is no reason to disparage socialism itself. In authoritarian socialism, it is the authoritarian part that sucks.

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        11 months ago

        Democratic socialism isn’t socialism though, it’s capitalism with lots of government services.

        The authoritarian part is pretty much baked in to “real” socialism since you need something to control the means of production until society is ready, and that hasn’t yet happened. Yes, there are other theorized structures, but they’re unproven.

        Tankies (i.e. many of those on .ml) are into the authoritarian part, whereas people here are more into democratic socialism, which is another thing entirely.