So, a while back I installed Xfce with Chicago95, but was disappointed. Xfce just doesn’t vibe with me, and a strict emulation of Windows95 is not really what I wanted, I just wanted something that “felt” that classic.

So I was gonna give up and just use KDE, until I saw TDE. I think TDE is probably what I’m looking for but I’m concerned about using anything so minor because security.

It TDE secure (for personal use)?

Can a DE even be insecure, or are they all generally as secure as each-other as long as you follow the rules (trustworthy software, closed firewall, install patches fast, and disaster recovery plans)?

What vulnerabilities can a desktop environment even have (edit)?

  • Sina@beehaw.org
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    10 months ago

    Probably not significantly less secure than Xorg itself, I wouldn’t mind using in your place. DE security is usually not a huge problem, if someone can exploit these vulnerabilities usually you are quite bonked.

    Remember most of what happens on screen is xorg, the wm is a simply interacting with xorg and other parts of your DE are simple user level programs like the panel etc…

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    10 months ago

    Before you give up on XFCE and/or Chicago95 - have you replaced the default menu with Whisker Menu? For me, Whisker Menu is a must-have for any sane XFCE user. When I used it with Chicago95, I found I could have a Windows 7 style interface with Windows 95 aesthetics.

    Honestly, even if Chicago95 is aesthetically not what you want, I’d recommend trying an alternate theme on XFCE - I currently use modified DesktopPal '97 combined with a pack of Haiku-style icons.

    Overall, I’d be interested to know more about your qualms with XFCE and see if customization can help you overcome them. A lot of distros have annoying defaults for XFCE, but I changed a few simple settings and have a desktop I rather enjoy using. It is totally fine if it still isn’t the thing for you after any potential discussion, but I just want to make sure you really know what XFCE has to offer before you move on.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t really like how I keep accidentally rolling-up the windows in Xfce and how long the settings menu takes to load, I probably had more qualms but I don’t remember what they are. It works fine (except for some aspects of Chicago95), but it feels outdated in a bad way rather than good way. Part of it is probably my crummy laptop with broken CTRL keys and incompatible bluetooth.

      DesktopPal '97 seems really cool, but right now my top priority is switching to KDE Plasma 6 with custom themes and seeing how that goes.

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        10 months ago

        Window roll-up can be disabled under Window Manager Tweaks > Accessibility > Use mouse wheel on title bar to roll up the window

        Getting the bitmap font right goes a long way towards making the theme much more cohesive: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/issues/218

        If you decide to return to any GTK-based desktop environments, I’d suggest trying out the GTK3 port of the Raleigh theme (https://github.com/thesquash/gtk-theme-raleigh). It’s a much less involved install compared to Chicago 95 but gets you most of the look-and-feel.

        The Whisker menu properties menu also has settings to make it fit the Windows 95 style a bit better. Here’s how it could look:

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          10 months ago

          I made the changes, and it’s slightly better but I think the main issue is my bad laptop and the negative association I have with Xfce as a result (since Xfce was what I was interacting with).

          Raleigh isn’t really my style. Too many lines. Plus I’ve decide I’ll switch to themed KDE (and probably FreeBSD with TDE on one device).

          The theme in the image you sent is really nice. Beige makes it feel more classic, and the red title-bar is far less jarring than a blue one is in 2025.