Speaking of, what’s the open alternative to discord? If there is one that is

Not just the high payed software folks, but the data centers are also maintained by highly skilled and hard working techs. And this technology is only possible with constant pristine maintenance if the servers to train their models. They loathe these people just as much and can’t wait to get humans out of the process

What’s crazy is how fragile their ai ecosystem is. The tech requires insane scaling in the form of data centers. We’ve hit the Moore’s law limit, this tech isn’t getting better in and of itself, it just gets better by adding more tpus and servers.

It all goes down if the data centers go down

They want slavery because ai taking jobs makes no economic sense and breaks labor theory of value. No human production means nothing has value. We are literally already seeing this with ai slop!

The humane solution is we get a society where that philosophy major actually gets to be a philosopher in a mostly post scarcity automated communist society… But that would mean these ghouls wouldn’t be in power so now they’re trying to tell us we need to go backwards in time to feudalism.

What an absolute fucking joke, their technology needs nationalized and given to the people, they belong in cages

Honestly as a socialist that sounds fucking awful. Sounds like a formula for people to be ruled by miniature cults.

Even if you truly believe this, the communities of fascists would just impose fascism on you.

The fact they exist and got us nowhere near a unified working class movement.

They’re all sectarian and pointless. The party that takes us there will be formed by the popular working class movement

Pick up where Debs left off

Conservativism is rooted in vibes and feelings, and false narratives to support those feelings. This is why they hate knowledge and people who attain it.

It’s a disease of the mind, it’s like they would rather be animal than human

Are you crying?

People got too used to being able to cosplay as oppressed victims of the state despite decades of minor policy changes between Democrat or Republican administrations.

All Americans got to enjoy conjuring any abstract worldview they wanted with the freedom of knowing they can say what they want whenever they want, never feel repression and just go home and watch tv. Maga got to pretend they were actively oppressed by the state which let’s them justify supporting real state oppression towards people they don’t like.

I imagine a lot of maga dorks voted for this, expected performative moves but a mostly stable continuity of the American center. I don’t know if they’ll ever admit it but I bet they are going to regret this president keeping his promises when they are stripped of all of their rights and their safety nets. The time for hyperbolics and hysterics are over, fascism is here, they are going to get ground down with the rest.

Brainwashed cult, and unfortunately we don’t have time to deprogram these people

Poor choice of words but I’ve seen it myself. Old divorced racist conservatives literally traveling to Thailand for wives. Their goal is to find subservient women that they can’t get at home. Nothing against the foreigners it’s more and indictment on the American

In general we give people who act stupid way too much credit, they’re actually just fucking stupid.

Conversely, we’re way too comfortable letting politicians play stupid instead of calling them out for their malicious intentions. And if the politician truly is stupid (Trump) there are handlers behind them pulling the strings

People asking if this is legal are missing the point. This is wrong, what is legal is whatever the executive decides, ICE can only be solved with constitunially supported extra judicial action.

Never apologized for any of the myriad of things he’s done to piss off the world, must not like money that much

Small business people are every bit as insufferable as big business people

Genuinely curious, why are there rich people in China? Or why are the rich allowed to exist?

I still think the distinction matters, fascism is the empire turned inwards.

America exerting fascism on other populations is just textbook liberalism. The facade of democracy and relative peace at home is different than fascism. Fascism demands obedience of the local population and is a full merger of corporation and state. Laws don’t matter, only the head of states will matters.

They’re both bad, but I think it’s disingenuous to tell people who are about to live under fascism that the liberal government they just had was also fascism because they oppressed populations around the globe.

Basically the time for lectures was when we were living under fake “fascism” and the time for gun and survival training is now

I don’t disagree that liberal democracies are capable and have been brutal to their populations, but to say they are just as brutal as fascism is just disingenuous. Contrary to popular belief, the average American does not live day to day in fear that they are about to get fucked by the state for no reason at all, and that’s even acknowledging the measures the state goes to criminalize and punish the most desperate in us society. We don’t fear state repression and death for the wrong opinion, looking a certain way.

It’s even more absurd to conflate fascism with European western democracies with their myriad of safety nets. I think painting things in this light doesn’t make socialism more appealing, just makes fascism look more acceptable and less dangerous.

I agree with critiques on us imperialism and the need for socialism, I just think it’s strange to treat fascism with kids gloves

I think this is the critique I share. A lot of leftists who seem to be from outside the US are putting on their theory and history caps and pointing out how bad the US is as an imperial power, ignoring that right now Americans who see what is happening would do anything to revert things to the way they were even if that was the neo liberal status quo. Sure could have used this analysis in more peaceful times when the Jakarta method wasn’t a real possibility facing socialist discourse. When facing fascism at home the last thing you care about is exactly the precise and correct way history should play out. In this sense I feel like the left absolutely fails constantly, for all the talk of international solidarity there sure is a lack of organizing. Can’t organize with anyone who isn’t a Marxist, I guess?

I also feel like saying the US was always fascist is skewing the definition of fascism and defanging it. “America was always fascist” makes it seem like the real fascism we are facing should be business as usual. Fascism is a distinct and brutal form of capitalism. Marxists have known about this, and I feel conflating with neo liberalism is revisionist.

The analysis is correct, in that America was always a force of oppression across the globe, but that doesn’t change the fact the local population enjoyed some sort of stability and predictability. Economically suppressed with a corporate two party system? Of course. Arbitrary overt censorship and rounding up of civilians? Not necessarily, and that is where we are going. Is it hypocritical to turn a blind eye to the suffering of people around the world? Sure, but most people are not aware of this, and doesn’t change the sheer terror you begin to feel when the oppression comes home.