• PlantObserver@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Ultra 7 155H with six P-cores, eight E-cores, and eight graphics cores; or an Ultra 7 165H with the same number of cores but marginally higher clock speeds.

    WTF is Intel smoking with these naming schemes I can’t even understand what this means. Thank fuck AMD is an option.

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      The number behind Ultra is pretty much the same as with the i$x scheme. 3 is entry, 5 is mid range, 7 is high end, 9 is bad decision making.

      The number after that kind of works like before. So higher number means more better. Probably with an extension for coming generation. Remember, the first i5s had 4 digit names as well, the fourth digit was prepended to indicate generations.

      Thing is, there’s no really good naming scheme, because there are so many possible variants/dimensions. Base clock, turbo clock, TDP, P core count, E core count, PCIe lanes, socket, generation ,… How would you encode that in a readable name?

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        just concat: intel i7 11g4p8e128l420c520b

        11 gen 4 pcore 8 ecore 128 lane 4.20ghz clock base 5.20ghz clock boost

        letter between for readable. maybe not add lane if not change for same number of pcore and ecore

        gskill do similar thing: F5-5200J3636C16GX2-FX5

        5200 mhz unbuffered dimm 36-36-36 timing 1.20v 16g per module dual channel 2 module in kit

        see here: https://www.gskill.com/faq/1502180912/DRAM-Memory

        edit: also can put architecture with letter to indicate refresh, add suffix for apu and maybe tdp

        can maybe use some letter for number: not that many different core number, make a=1pcore, b=2pcore, c=3pcore, … more than 26 pcore unlikely ever in consumer cpu. same for ecore maybe

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            2 years ago

            Yes, can see what different between cpu without go to intel page and read spec. Not only that cpu are different.

            What mean readable to you?

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                name supposed to describe thing. too much information not the problem. if you think too long, can shorten to just enough information that different cpu have different name. which what i did.

                edit: also question was how to encode different cpu variant into name, so result require to include that information

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              For example being able to get a grasp of the rough performance from the have.

              i5 10500 is faster than i5 10400. But is 6p4e better than 4p8e?

              It’s illusionary to fit everything about a CPU into its name. What you’re proposing is essentially the entire value column of the spec sheet concatenated.

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                if 10500 mean 6p4e and 10400 mean 4p8e, which is faster depend on workload. so compare by that not good and that how currently is.

                also if then 10900 is 12p0e, maybe not faster for gaming if game is single thread, so compare broken again. and also not good for mobile device that care about battery life. who tell you that?

                and yes, basically that just most important or most compared spec concatenated. which describe the cpu, i think a name is supposed do that.

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                  And how many people do you think could accurately, or even ballpark, estimate their workload? I couldn’t tell you, whether my workload would benefit from more e or p cores and by how much.

                  What you’re implying here is an illusion of accuracy. You want accurate numbers for something that you can’t really judge anyway. These numbers don’t mean anything to you, they just give you the illusion of knowing what’s going on. It’s the “close door” button in an elevator.

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      its due to whoever paid for the R&D for the screen asked for rounded corners. Framework just took the design and retooled the connectors for their own use case, as its significantly cheaper than commissioning a entirely new panel.

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        Well time to not buy it. I have a pixel 7a and the rounded corners drive me nuts, not to mention the home punch idiocracy. The phone renders a rectangle show me a rectangle.

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          If you were actually hoping to buy one but the rounded corners are a dealbreaker, then you may be interested to know that the DIY edition lets you mix and match the older display with the newer motherboards. Looks like opting for the older display even saves you $130 on the purchase price.

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            I wanted the higher resolutuon display for my existing framework but just… Why???

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              because theres a (very) expensive R&D attached to ordering a custom screen. its why many companies on the market use the same panel when making monitors. (e.g for gen 1 woled monitors from LG, LG, Asus, MSI(?) and i think Acer used the same panel.

              just “wanting a higher res screen” isnt something thats trivial to order for, especially since the FW13 uses a 3:2 screen , an aspect ratio usually used by tablets

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                Yes I know it’s an R&D thing I just dont get with the obsession with rounded screen corners.

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      2 years ago

      What critical information are people putting in the six missing pixels?

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    The Core Ultra chips, like the Ryzen 7040-series chips, also include a neural processing unit (NPU) that can be used to accelerate some AI workloads. But both NPUs fall far short of the performance required for Recall and other locally accelerated AI features coming to Windows 11 24H2 later this year;

    Why even waste the fucking space on the die then?

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    This is all well and good, but what I really want is a Framework 2-in-1. That would be drool worthy.